1uofacat Report post Posted March 12, 2021 4 hours ago, huntlines said: Geez, I thought some of you were pissed. A guy who writes a book must be imploding with anger. I'm hardly "imploding with anger" 🤣, just calling BS when I see it & backing it up. Just because someone "backs up" what they post hardly proves they're angry... passionate perhaps, but not necessarily angry. I did find it interesting however that you latet noted, "I never said I didn't like the post..." 👍 😁 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
360 0r Better Report post Posted March 12, 2021 This thread is reminding me of the old story of the young bull and the old bull standing on the hill overlooking the cows and the young bull says to the old bull let’s run down there and bang one of them and the old bull says no let’s just walk down and bang them all. Patients boys life is to short to get worked up over a little delay which you will learn as you get older and wiser. Plus all the critters aren’t going to evaporate because the results are not out yet. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost85 Report post Posted March 12, 2021 $13 isn’t much but spread that, plus licenses across 5-7 species, plus another $5 for point guard for most of us, for multiple people in a household and it adds up fast. I spend around $300-$400 a year (between my gf and i) if we don’t get a single tag. Add a few otc tags (bear, lion, turkey, deer) and it jumps up to about $600-$700 a year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wish2hunt Report post Posted March 12, 2021 28 minutes ago, GreyGhost85 said: $13 isn’t much but spread that, plus licenses across 5-7 species, plus another $5 for point guard for most of us, for multiple people in a household and it adds up fast. I spend around $300-$400 a year (between my gf and i) if we don’t get a single tag. Add a few otc tags (bear, lion, turkey, deer) and it jumps up to about $600-$700 a year. Times 220,000 apps. They could do better with that money 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huntlines Report post Posted March 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, trophyseeker said: Seems like they have plenty of money to pay their field officers better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost85 Report post Posted March 12, 2021 am i seeing this right? the cost to operate is about 44 million and the took in 133 million? where is the other 90 million a year going? not to conservation and maintenance, that's for sure 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adicted Report post Posted March 12, 2021 man i would love to see more of a breakdown Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trophyseeker Report post Posted March 12, 2021 Don't get confused if you don't know what an operating budget is. That is not total expenditures but merely what it takes to operate the department. FY 2021 Baseline Book - Arizona Game and Fish Department (azleg.gov) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trophyseeker Report post Posted March 12, 2021 This is a financial report from 2017-2018 -- the latest available on the AZGFD website. AZGFD Annual Reports 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZBIG10 Report post Posted March 12, 2021 42 minutes ago, GreyGhost85 said: am i seeing this right? the cost to operate is about 44 million and the took in 133 million? where is the other 90 million a year going? not to conservation and maintenance, that's for sure SAlt river horse restorations. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trophyseeker Report post Posted March 12, 2021 4 hours ago, huntlines said: Seems like they have plenty of money to pay their field officers better. I'm not positive, BUT I think the salaries are set by the state, perhaps by the legislature. ****** Compensation Beginning salary is based on the education and experience of the applicant. Newly hired Wildlife Manager I’s, and Law Enforcement Specialist I’s will be on probation for at least one year. After completion of initial probation, Wildlife Managers and Law Enforcement Specialists may apply for any position within the Department for which they qualify. Salary Ranges Wildlife Manager I (19) $42,504- $59,812 Wildlife Manager II (20) $46,096- $65,828 Wildlife Manager III (21) $50,000- $71,564 Law Enforcement Specialist I (19) $42,504- $59,812 Law Enforcement Specialist II (20) $46,096- $65,828 Benefits Medical—Dental—Vision—Pharmacy Annual Leave—Sick Leave Short and Long Term Disability Life Insurance Ten Paid State Holidays Annually Uniform Allowance Credit Union Deferred Compensation Employee Discount Program Eligible for Retirement Under the Public Safety Personnel Retirement System Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huntlines Report post Posted March 12, 2021 1 hour ago, trophyseeker said: I'm not positive, BUT I think the salaries are set by the state, perhaps by the legislature. ****** Compensation Beginning salary is based on the education and experience of the applicant. Newly hired Wildlife Manager I’s, and Law Enforcement Specialist I’s will be on probation for at least one year. After completion of initial probation, Wildlife Managers and Law Enforcement Specialists may apply for any position within the Department for which they qualify. Salary Ranges Wildlife Manager I (19) $42,504- $59,812 Wildlife Manager II (20) $46,096- $65,828 Wildlife Manager III (21) $50,000- $71,564 Law Enforcement Specialist I (19) $42,504- $59,812 Law Enforcement Specialist II (20) $46,096- $65,828 Benefits Medical—Dental—Vision—Pharmacy Annual Leave—Sick Leave Short and Long Term Disability Life Insurance Ten Paid State Holidays Annually Uniform Allowance Credit Union Deferred Compensation Employee Discount Program Eligible for Retirement Under the Public Safety Personnel Retirement System I went to the academy with several wardens, most of them have gone on to other law enforcement jobs for better pay. They are stretched too thin and don’t make enough, in my opinion. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roosevelt Mark Report post Posted March 12, 2021 1 hour ago, trophyseeker said: I'm not positive, BUT I think the salaries are set by the state, perhaps by the legislature. ****** Compensation Beginning salary is based on the education and experience of the applicant. Newly hired Wildlife Manager I’s, and Law Enforcement Specialist I’s will be on probation for at least one year. After completion of initial probation, Wildlife Managers and Law Enforcement Specialists may apply for any position within the Department for which they qualify. Salary Ranges Wildlife Manager I (19) $42,504- $59,812 Wildlife Manager II (20) $46,096- $65,828 Wildlife Manager III (21) $50,000- $71,564 Law Enforcement Specialist I (19) $42,504- $59,812 Law Enforcement Specialist II (20) $46,096- $65,828 Benefits Medical—Dental—Vision—Pharmacy Annual Leave—Sick Leave Short and Long Term Disability Life Insurance Ten Paid State Holidays Annually Uniform Allowance Credit Union Deferred Compensation Employee Discount Program Eligible for Retirement Under the Public Safety Personnel Retirement System Interesting, thanks for posting. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites