GreyGhost85 Report post Posted March 4, 2021 I'm not sure on the legality either but you'd think someone would need to give you a date they are going to charge you so you can make sure the funds are in line. There are probably a lot of people who's cards expired at the end of the month and they didn't update them because they thought the charges would come  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huntlines Report post Posted March 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Jt1911man said: Why would they HAVE to run it first thing in the morning? Why couldn't this happen at any time during their normal business hours? Not their typical MO. If I remember correctly the last five or six years it's been first thing in the morning, any later hits were due to rejected cards. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AzDiamondHeat Report post Posted March 4, 2021 14 minutes ago, GreyGhost85 said: I'm not sure on the legality either but you'd think someone would need to give you a date they are going to charge you so you can make sure the funds are in line. There are probably a lot of people who's cards expired at the end of the month and they didn't update them because they thought the charges would come   I would think those whith expired cards would know they are expired and would go in and update their cards in the portal. Unless they have locked the portals somehow you can go in at any time and update your info. I don't know about those that applied without the portal though. I use the portal so I know nothing about the other method and if you can still update your card. Personally I hope they ALL expire so I can get drawn. Yes, I am selfish like that. I don't really like any of you so I really don't care what happens to your apps.     3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greg.shrum Report post Posted March 4, 2021 They should charge you the full amount of the tags when you apply and give you the option of getting a refund if not drawn or leave the money in an account to use for the next draw. No more credit card issues and would help limit the people that put in every non-hunter they know so they can pass a strip tag to their 10 year old or use everyone’s bonus points to help their odds of drawing a tag. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wish2hunt Report post Posted March 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, AzDiamondHeat said:  I would think those whith expired cards would know they are expired and would go in and update their cards in the portal. Unless they have locked the portals somehow you can go in at any time and update your info. I don't know about those that applied without the portal though. I use the portal so I know nothing about the other method and if you can still update your card. Personally I hope they ALL expire so I can get drawn. Yes, I am selfish like that. I don't really like any of you so I really don't care what happens to your apps.     They were locked last Thursday at midnight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZ Free Man Report post Posted March 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, greg.shrum said: They should charge you the full amount of the tags when you apply and give you the option of getting a refund if not drawn or leave the money in an account to use for the next draw. No more credit card issues and would help limit the people that put in every non-hunter they know so they can pass a strip tag to their 10 year old or use everyone’s bonus points to help their odds of drawing a tag. Not a bad idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wish2hunt Report post Posted March 4, 2021 They need to do something better than they do Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AzDiamondHeat Report post Posted March 4, 2021 39 minutes ago, wish2hunt said: They were locked last Thursday at midnight.  Well never mind then. I can see why people would be frustrated with that. I wouldn't have used a card that expired that soon but I can see where some might not have the option. Still, just because they have been somewhat efficient for the past two draws does not mean they are committed to being so moving forward. I would rather them ensure it is CORRECT rather than fast. If they can do BOTH, well then that's just a cherry. Sadly people are relying on a precedent and not a commitment for the time frame.    Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wish2hunt Report post Posted March 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, AzDiamondHeat said:  Well never mind then. I can see why people would be frustrated with that. I wouldn't have used a card that expired that soon but I can see where some might not have the option. Still, just because they have been somewhat efficient for the past two draws does not mean they are committed to being so moving forward. I would rather them ensure it is CORRECT rather than fast. If they can do BOTH, well then that's just a cherry. Sadly people are relying on a precedent and not a commitment for the time frame.    It’s not only expiration but how about getting hit with fraud? That is totally out of your hands but everyday they wait to charge the chances of that happening goes up. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted March 4, 2021 just 2 more weeks 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1uofacat Report post Posted March 4, 2021 40 minutes ago, trphyhntr said: just 2 more weeks probably the longest two weeks of the year!🤣 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buffhunter Report post Posted March 4, 2021 2 hours ago, greg.shrum said: They should charge you the full amount of the tags when you apply and give you the option of getting a refund if not drawn or leave the money in an account to use for the next draw. No more credit card issues and would help limit the people that put in every non-hunter they know so they can pass a strip tag to their 10 year old or use everyone’s bonus points to help their odds of drawing a tag. Yes most definitely.  But If I remember right... there is a legal issue in the state to charge a card without rendering services.  Or something like that 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huntlines Report post Posted March 4, 2021 19 minutes ago, buffhunter said: Yes most definitely.  But If I remember right... there is a legal issue in the state to charge a card without rendering services.  Or something like that I've heard this line of thinking in the past reference a requirement to provide a service in order to charge a credit card. I don't believe this can be a factor because the service provided is a chance at getting a tag. The same thing as buying a lottery ticket, it's just a chance to get a tag. I am probably wrong......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
knothead Report post Posted March 4, 2021 You need to change the Arizona banking laws if you want to charge up front. Each state has different banking laws and that is why some states can get away with it.  This is not an G&F issue.  1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
codyhuntsaz Report post Posted March 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, huntlines said: I've heard this line of thinking in the past reference a requirement to provide a service in order to charge a credit card. I don't believe this can be a factor because the service provided is a chance at getting a tag. The same thing as buying a lottery ticket, it's just a chance to get a tag. I am probably wrong......... I believe you have to use a debit card to buy a lottery ticket in AZ, can’t use a credit card. I could be wrong though, I was once, back in ‘88. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
