TwoGuns Report post Posted January 16, 2021 After 40+ years as an AZ resident I recently moved out of state. Before I left I purchased a lifetime license. I now have a buddy I want to apply with for the elk hunt next fall. The question is what happens if we apply on the same app? Me with my lifetime license and him as out of state? I sort of assume we would both have to be in the out of state pool. Wondering if this is right, and if there are any other options I’m missing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CatfishKev Report post Posted January 16, 2021 With a lifetime license you are not subject to the 10% non res cap. Therefore you are fine to put in together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outdoor Writer Report post Posted January 16, 2021 21 minutes ago, CatfishKev said: With a lifetime license you are not subject to the 10% non res cap. Therefore you are fine to put in together. Careful. His partner without the LT license still is subject to the 10% cap. Now, I'm going to GUESS here: IF the 10% cap has already been filled if & when their permit # comes up, the entire app will be rejected. Why? I don't believe they would issue a permit to one applicant & not the other. Sooo...the best bet is to make a call to AGFD and find out for sure. P.S. : I assume the OP also knows that any BPs he has will be halved with his partner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CatfishKev Report post Posted January 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, Outdoor Writer said: Careful. His partner without the LT license still is subject to the 10% cap. Now, I'm going to GUESS here: IF the 10% cap has already been filled if & when their permit # comes up, the entire app will be rejected. Why? I don't believe they would issue a permit to one applicant & not the other. Sooo...the best bet is to make a call to AGFD and find out for sure. Oops, I incorrectly thought his buddy was from AZ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigorange Report post Posted January 16, 2021 24 minutes ago, CatfishKev said: Oops, I incorrectly thought his buddy was from AZ. I thought the same...and yeah if his buddy is non-res it’s treated just like a resident and non-res putting in together. I believe OW is correct and they both wouldn’t draw when their # came up if the non-res cap had been met. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outdoor Writer Report post Posted January 16, 2021 2 hours ago, CatfishKev said: Oops, I incorrectly thought his buddy was from AZ. This section below in red is likely to apply. R12-4-104 I. All members of a group shall apply for the same hunt numbers and in the same order of preference. 1. No more than four persons may apply as a group. 2. The Department shall not issue a hunt permit-tag to any group member unless sufficient hunt permit-tags are available for all group members. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TwoGuns Report post Posted January 18, 2021 On 1/16/2021 at 11:24 AM, Outdoor Writer said: Careful. His partner without the LT license still is subject to the 10% cap. Now, I'm going to GUESS here: IF the 10% cap has already been filled if & when their permit # comes up, the entire app will be rejected. Why? I don't believe they would issue a permit to one applicant & not the other. Sooo...the best bet is to make a call to AGFD and find out for sure. P.S. : I assume the OP also knows that any BPs he has will be halved with his partner. Thanks for this info. I think the benefit to my LT license would be lost if we put in together I suppose. I’m not too worried on the bonus point issue since my buddy has 2 points also. I’ll call G&F for clarification. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outdoor Writer Report post Posted January 18, 2021 Glad to help. I was simply intepreting the rule as I understand it. Do call to get it from the horse's mouth, so to speak. As to the BPs, you didn't mention how many you had, so I didn't know if it would be an issue or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
