muledeerarea33? Report post Posted September 21, 2020 Butterfield overland? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edge Report post Posted September 21, 2020 4 hours ago, ThomC said: Okay Mr. history teacher you tell us why knowing the answer is going to learn us how to find a Coues Deer. Inquiring minds want to know. 😷 Im sorry, you've come to the wrong class. Your admission slip says you're supposed to be in Shed Building 101 across the hall. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edge Report post Posted September 21, 2020 1 hour ago, muledeerarea33? said: Butterfield overland? Correct. Partial credit for Wells Fargo answer, they were partners and eventually acquired the line. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elkaholic Report post Posted September 21, 2020 Probably the territorial prison Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muledeerarea33? Report post Posted September 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Edge said: Correct. Partial credit for Wells Fargo answer, they were partners and eventually acquired the line. I had to cheat for that one. Interesting read on wiki. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edge Report post Posted September 21, 2020 59 minutes ago, muledeerarea33? said: I had to cheat for that one. Interesting read on wiki. The Butterfield Trail has a special meaning for me since my grandparents lived at what was, a hundred years previously, the Cow Springs stage stop between Hatch and Lordsburg, NM. The wagon ruts were still visible and two buildings built for the stage line, still stand. One was an adobe meat house (right) which was nearly unchanged. Note the wagon wheel hubs and metates in the foreground. The other, the bunk house which received upgrades over the years. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muledeerarea33? Report post Posted September 21, 2020 I read a book a while back by Gerald Ahnert about it. I believe our property is close to or on the original stage route. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edge Report post Posted September 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, muledeerarea33? said: I read a book a while back by Gerald Ahnert about it. I believe our property is close to or on the original stage route. I was just yesterday discussing the Butterfield route and schedule with Mr. Ahnhert. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outdoor Writer Report post Posted September 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, Edge said: I was just yesterday discussing the Butterfield route and schedule with Mr. Ahnhert. Cool how it so closely mirrored where the present day interstates are. 👍 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muledeerarea33? Report post Posted September 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Edge said: I was just yesterday discussing the Butterfield route and schedule with Mr. Ahnhert. Well I’ll be. I met him at a book signing when I got the book. Seemed like a nice guy for the few seconds I saw him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swivelhead Report post Posted September 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Outdoor Writer said: Cool how it so closely mirrored where the present day interstates are. 👍 Not trying to hijack this thread but .......... a good read (long) should you have interest. https://apps.azdot.gov/files/ADOTLibrary/publications/project_reports/pdf/az660.pdf 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edge Report post Posted September 21, 2020 11 minutes ago, Swivelhead said: Not trying to hijack this thread but .......... a good read (long) should you have interest. https://apps.azdot.gov/files/ADOTLibrary/publications/project_reports/pdf/az660.pdf Reliable water = settlements. Roads link settlements. Great resource, Swivelhead, I've bookmarked for later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edge Report post Posted September 21, 2020 12 hours ago, arizonian said: One individual or two? Wells Fargo comes to mind. Or maybe the Butterfield Stage? I didn't see Butterfield in your answer earlier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outdoor Writer Report post Posted September 21, 2020 21 minutes ago, Swivelhead said: Not trying to hijack this thread but .......... a good read (long) should you have interest. https://apps.azdot.gov/files/ADOTLibrary/publications/project_reports/pdf/az660.pdf I saved it to my HD for later perusing. Thanks!!👍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arizonian Report post Posted September 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Edge said: I didn't see Butterfield in your answer earlier. I edited it in maybe 5-10 minutes after my initial answer. A friend of mine and Terry's (.25-06) was of the belief that the Butterfield Stage crossed north of the Rincon Mountains over the Redington Road and came up the San Pedro to Benson. He always pointed out a bit of ruins when we passed. Redington is nowhere near Cienega Creek. Time to do some research. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites