airbow

[jdown]

24 minutes ago, NOTAGS said:

 

So is a crossbow. Yet crossbows were primitive weapons of old.  As were the original  muzzleloaders.  Calling the modern compound with 80% let off, adjustable sighting and 340 fps a primitive weapon or bow is pretty far fetched as well.

If you seriously don't see a difference between these two archery approved weapons, then I guess you are on the same plane as G&F is right now.  Doesn't mean we all have to agree.  Again use in good health. I would love to have one for predator calling though.  They look like a lot of fun.   

[Chef]

5 hours ago, biglakejake said:

my sympathies sir.  in 2006 i fell during a ceiling remodel and crushed a vertebrae resulting in 50% loss.  sold my bow and that was that.

lee

ps i had a rifle bull tag that autumn while still at 10%.  made the long cross canyon shot but packing the head out friends had to tie my hand and arm to the rack.

 

Hey it's BOB!  

[NOTAGS]

57 minutes ago, jdown said:

If you seriously don't see a difference between these two archery approved weapons, then I guess you are on the same plane as G&F is right now.  Doesn't mean we all have to agree.  Again use in good health. I would love to have one for predator calling though.  They look like a lot of fun.   

I see the difference. The airbow is not   "approved " during the archery season  unless you have a handicapped permit for a crossbow.   However, the point is that a person with a disability permit inquired about the second item which was ostracized by someone because he felt it was unfair to use during the archery season.  To call out one weapon  that would be used by a very small number of people during a hunt  as unfair and  state that it shouldnt be allowed during the archery season seems  to me like saying that CHAMP permit holders shouldnt be able to hunt during any of the regular  seasons since shooting from a vehicle is an unfair advantage.  

 

My point was simply that archery seasons were started when traditional archery was the only choice. As a season for people who wanted the challenge of stalking close to their prey without competing with the "unfair" advantage the gun hunters had.  The modern compound is a long way evolved from what was considered to set up the original archery  hunts. For a compound shooter to decry a crossbow or airbow  as unfair is no different than  the trad guys who have complained about the compound guys hunting  in the same season for years.

As an archery hunter who started out  with a recurve 44 years ago, am I happy to be hunting with a crossbow?  No.  Am I happy to have the opportunity to continue pursuing a passion  and a pastime that puts me in the wild during extended seasons with my friends?  Yes.

[creed]

It really isn’t much more of an advantage than a skilled archer with a well tuned compound. I shot an antelope at 92 yards with a Hoyt Vectrix. This thing probably isn’t much better than that. If you get on the Bowsite forums the traditionalist say much of the same thing about modern compounds. 

[trphyhntr]

Not having to draw is huge, having an optic is also big. It’s just a short range rifle. I mean can’t we draw the line somewhere?

[NOTAGS]

1 hour ago, trphyhntr said:

I like where you guys are going with this, general seasons only. If you want to use a bow, go for it. 

This may be closer to the truth than most know.  Rumor has it that the muzzle loader seasons will become a thing of the past due to the capabilities of modern inlines..  Archery may not be far behind

[creed]

2 minutes ago, trphyhntr said:

Not having to draw is huge, having an optic is also big. It’s just a short range rifle. I mean can’t we draw the line somewhere?

I would give alot to be able to pull a 70lb compound. I can't do it anymore. It's hard to come to grips with the fact that I used to be able to bench 330lbs but now have trouble holding a 7lb bow. I love archery. I love hunting. Something like an airbow or even crossbow is not something I want to do. But I don't want to give up hunting desert muleys during the rut either. Here's a suggestion that will go over like a turd in the punch bowl......cut the January archery season to two weeks and let the handicap airbow/crossbow guys have two weeks. Problem solved LOL!

[jdown]

I definitely support the ability to keep in the field and to me the crossbow does that and is still conceptually similar to a bow (limb driven for energy, string drawn etc - mechanical trigger compares to a mechanical release even).  This thing just seems like it is taking it too far, other than the fact it projects an arrow/bolt, it has zero in common with anything archery. 

The closest comparison I can think of would be saying a single shot rifle can used on muzzle loader hunts -- just does't make sense to allow this. We all know other states outlaw 209 ignition, magnified scopes, etc on ML hunts, and yet life goes one there - feels like Az is becoming the land of let's approve everything.  I would vote for a bit more of a balance. 

[trphyhntr]

46 minutes ago, creed said:

I would give alot to be able to pull a 70lb compound. I can't do it anymore. It's hard to come to grips with the fact that I used to be able to bench 330lbs but now have trouble holding a 7lb bow. I love archery. I love hunting. Something like an airbow or even crossbow is not something I want to do. But I don't want to give up hunting desert muleys during the rut either. Here's a suggestion that will go over like a turd in the punch bowl......cut the January archery season to two weeks and let the handicap airbow/crossbow guys have two weeks. Problem solved LOL!

I know what you’re saying, my dad is the most stubborn person I’ve ever met and I’m certainly not looking forward to losing any strength or mobility in my limbs

[Outdoor Writer]

28 minutes ago, trphyhntr said:

I know what you’re saying, my dad is the most stubborn person I’ve ever met and I’m certainly not looking forward to losing any strength or mobility in my limbs

I had COPD quite bad when I did my sheep hunt, but right after that, I contracted "Mycobacterium avium complex (MAC)," which is akin to the tuberculosis bug. The MAC bug  is everywhere, but for someone with a good immune system, it's harmless. My immune system was compromised because of the prednisone (steroid) I was taking for the COPD. I was in the hospital in an isolation room for 11 days and had to take three antibiotics twice daily for three years. It left permanent scaring on my upper left lung. and put me on oxygen 24/7.  

So it pretty much ended my outdoor adventures. Although I probably could have kept at it in some handicapped form, it didn't fit my make-up.

Getting C-19 would make a dead man walking. 😂

[trphyhntr]

I’m glad you’re still here, yeah that covid could be trouble but you’re a tough old boy. 

[Outdoor Writer]

12 minutes ago, trphyhntr said:

I’m glad you’re still here, yeah that covid could be trouble but you’re a tough old boy. 

The sad thing is I'm having medical issues right now that will likely result in a hospital stay. So even with the pain I'm having, I've put off heading to the ER because of C-19. And with the stuff I'm selling, I have my lovely bride of nearly 60 years do the exchange at the front door.