rancilio Report post Posted April 20, 2020 Yes, all trustees (ATF defined as Responsible Person) must complete a Form 23 (Responsible Person Questionnaire), a photo and 2x fingerprint cards. Both Individual and trust ownership require CLEO notification, no sign off. A common technique these days is to remove trustees, except for the settlor (sometimes called original trustee) prior to submitting a new NFA application... or just create a new trust with a single trustee. Adding trustees, after the approved Form 4 comes back, is between the settlor and whoever is added. No ATF, FBI, CLEO or anybody needs to be notified. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deserttacoma84 Report post Posted April 20, 2020 37 minutes ago, rancilio said: Yes, all trustees (ATF defined as Responsible Person) must complete a Form 23 (Responsible Person Questionnaire), a photo and 2x fingerprint cards. Both Individual and trust ownership require CLEO notification, no sign off. A common technique these days is to remove trustees, except for the settlor (sometimes called original trustee) prior to submitting a new NFA application... or just create a new trust with a single trustee. Adding trustees, after the approved Form 4 comes back, is between the settlor and whoever is added. No ATF, FBI, CLEO or anybody needs to be notified. Did that just change in last few years? I assume would just be easier to set up new trust? Would that need to be done each time you wanted to purcha new NFA item? Anyone recommend a solid person other than Mr. Silencer to set up new trust and purchase from? Preferably Northwest phx? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
broadhead Report post Posted April 20, 2020 1 hour ago, rancilio said: Yes, all trustees (ATF defined as Responsible Person) must complete a Form 23 (Responsible Person Questionnaire), a photo and 2x fingerprint cards. Both Individual and trust ownership require CLEO notification, no sign off. A common technique these days is to remove trustees, except for the settlor (sometimes called original trustee) prior to submitting a new NFA application... or just create a new trust with a single trustee. Adding trustees, after the approved Form 4 comes back, is between the settlor and whoever is added. No ATF, FBI, CLEO or anybody needs to be notified. We need to talk about that. That’s a question that I’ve been researching. Why don’t we discuss it when you call me after you receive my approved Form 4? The one I mentioned in the OP that was approved on the 6th was the one you sold me! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deserttacoma84 Report post Posted April 20, 2020 22 minutes ago, broadhead said: We need to talk about that. That’s a question that I’ve been researching. Why don’t we discuss it when you call me after you receive my approved Form 4? The one I mentioned in the OP that was approved on the 6th was the one you sold me! That doesn't sound good.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
broadhead Report post Posted April 20, 2020 49 minutes ago, deserttacoma84 said: That doesn't sound good.... Of course it does. My Form 4 was approved! Should be in the mail to Arizona soon if it’s not already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rancilio Report post Posted April 20, 2020 2 hours ago, broadhead said: We need to talk about that. That’s a question that I’ve been researching. Why don’t we discuss it when you call me after you receive my approved Form 4? The one I mentioned in the OP that was approved on the 6th was the one you sold me! Ahha. Great. I’ll tell you what you need to know to make it easy. I generally see forms 1-3wks following approval. 2 hours ago, deserttacoma84 said: Did that just change in last few years? I assume would just be easier to set up new trust? Would that need to be done each time you wanted to purcha new NFA item? Anyone recommend a solid person other than Mr. Silencer to set up new trust and purchase from? Preferably Northwest phx? Ruling 41F in July 2016, changed a few things. Depending on the verbiage of your trust, it may or may not be easy to remove trustees. Most trusts that I have seen are written such that removing or adding a trustee is fairly simple. The trust you send in with a new NFA application should accurately reflect the trustees on the trust at that time. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
broadhead Report post Posted April 20, 2020 Cool I'll follow up with you when it arrives then. Hopefully any day now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Curtis Reed Report post Posted April 28, 2020 I just got the call today. Picked mine up. Took 9 months. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
