Zeke-BE Report post Posted May 10, 2020 Couple of months ago if someone said "hey should we shut down the state of Arizona for a virus that will not affect 99.99% of Arizona. And the people who do get it half the deaths will be on the Navajo Nation and the rest 85% are over the age of 65 with pre existing health conditons."??? What do we got to do to keep AZ from not shutting down?? Wash your hands more often and keep 6ft away and quarantine senior living centers and aid the Navajo Nation in what they need. Thats it? Yep thats it! Well maybe keep kids home from school but 95% of business can stay open!! Huh!! Well that doesn't seem that bad. With those odds if your below 65 with no health conditions you are about 0.001% chance from dying. Are you sure we don't need to shut down Arizona?? Yes Im sure said the person with common since. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stanley Report post Posted May 10, 2020 32 minutes ago, Zeke-BE said: Couple of months ago if someone said "hey should we shut down the state of Arizona for a virus that will not affect 99.99% of Arizona. And the people who do get it half the deaths will be on the Navajo Nation and the rest 85% are over the age of 65 with pre existing health conditons."??? What do we got to do to keep AZ from not shutting down?? Wash your hands more often and keep 6ft away and quarantine senior living centers and aid the Navajo Nation in what they need. Thats it? Yep thats it! Well maybe keep kids home from school but 95% of business can stay open!! Huh!! Well that doesn't seem that bad. With those odds if your below 65 with no health conditions you are about 0.001% chance from dying. Are you sure we don't need to shut down Arizona?? Yes Im sure said the person with common since. 100% agree with your sentiment regarding washing hands and slight distancing (6ft) for the average person. Also isolation/quarantine for those at high risk. NO need to shut down as/if people practice some basic hygiene and distancing. Still wondering what your source of information is regarding 1/2 of the deaths being on the Navajo Nation, though. Everything I've seen says majority of deaths have been in the major metro areas, which makes sense simply from a 'numbers' perspective. ( https://www.azfamily.com/news/continuing_coverage/coronavirus_coverage/interactives/ ) S. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke-BE Report post Posted May 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, stanley said: 100% agree with your sentiment regarding washing hands and slight distancing (6ft) for the average person. Also isolation/quarantine for those at high risk. NO need to shut down as/if people practice some basic hygiene and distancing. Still wondering what your source of information is regarding 1/2 of the deaths being on the Navajo Nation, though. Everything I've seen says majority of deaths have been in the major metro areas, which makes sense simply from a 'numbers' perspective. ( https://www.azfamily.com/news/continuing_coverage/coronavirus_coverage/interactives/ ) S. Source was a couple weeks ago when we hit I think 300 people. News came out and said half was on the reservation. This was the first time they were announcing who and where. I might be wrong or they were at the time. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CatfishKev Report post Posted May 10, 2020 Well it's gotten me thinking about self suffenciey. With a pool for emergency water next step is chickens. I got a totally enclosed dog run I'm gonna set up and took the family all to pick out chickens yesterday. At least we are one step closer to being better prepared. Now I just got to build a cop for inside it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegunsmith2506 Report post Posted May 10, 2020 58 minutes ago, Zeke-BE said: Couple of months ago if someone said "hey should we shut down the state of Arizona for a virus that will not affect 99.99% of Arizona. And the people who do get it half the deaths will be on the Navajo Nation and the rest 85% are over the age of 65 with pre existing health conditons."??? What do we got to do to keep AZ from not shutting down?? Wash your hands more often and keep 6ft away and quarantine senior living centers and aid the Navajo Nation in what they need. Thats it? Yep thats it! Well maybe keep kids home from school but 95% of business can stay open!! Huh!! Well that doesn't seem that bad. With those odds if your below 65 with no health conditions you are about 0.001% chance from dying. Are you sure we don't need to shut down Arizona?? Yes Im sure said the person with common since. Exactly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edge Report post Posted May 10, 2020 16 minutes ago, CatfishKev said: Well it's gotten me thinking about self suffenciey. With a pool for emergency water next step is chickens. I got a totally enclosed dog run I'm gonna set up and took the family all to pick out chickens yesterday. At least we are one step closer to being better prepared. Now I just got to build a cop for inside it. How old are the chickens you're building cops for? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CatfishKev Report post Posted May 10, 2020 There bran new chicks. I'm new to all this.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CatfishKev Report post Posted May 10, 2020 Haha, I see what you mean. Dang auto correct Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edge Report post Posted May 10, 2020 40 minutes ago, CatfishKev said: Haha, I see what you mean. Dang auto correct Were they sexed. Or ya just bought chicks. Let's see.if we can keep the answers clean. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CatfishKev Report post Posted May 10, 2020 15 minutes ago, Edge said: Were they sexed. Or ya just bought chicks. Let's see.if we can keep the answers clean. Yeah they were (supposedly). If we end up with a rooster ill just grill him 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Delw Report post Posted May 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Zeke-BE said: Source was a couple weeks ago when we hit I think 300 people. News came out and said half was on the reservation. This was the first time they were announcing who and where. I might be wrong or they were at the time. I read that as well, if I recall it was a week later that new mexico shut down the one city. I happened to look again at the deaths and maricopa county was the top slot by far last week. There was a huge jump in the deaths in one week in maricopa county which seemed odd at them time. I dont know if they made a mistake in the begining or what. A large part of the jump was all the old folks homes, been a big rise in it the last few weeks. both mesa and Glendale and I believe Scottsdale. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildwoody Report post Posted May 10, 2020 Only thing that sucks about chickens you tend to spend more on feed then the amount of eggs you get. Love killing the roasters Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke-BE Report post Posted May 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Delw said: I read that as well, if I recall it was a week later that new mexico shut down the one city. I happened to look again at the deaths and maricopa county was the top slot by far last week. There was a huge jump in the deaths in one week in maricopa county which seemed odd at them time. I dont know if they made a mistake in the begining or what. A large part of the jump was all the old folks homes, been a big rise in it the last few weeks. both mesa and Glendale and I believe Scottsdale. The last jump a few days ago was over 30 confirmed deaths from April 12. But they finally just announced it 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JLW Report post Posted May 11, 2020 40 million of the us population have 1 or more chronic illness aka (underlying conditions) agree 100% you can't shut everything down! people need to be more aware.... as stated above ,wash hands, don't touch your face, don't lean on surfaces touched by other people. hard to change habits but starting to get used to it. 1 person from our company died last week. had bad diabetes and was around 60 years old. some of our drivers are transporting covid patients. this is a nightmare! getting ppe supplies, people gouging (supply and demand i guess) 1 cleaning supply place charged us over $900 for a 55 gal barrel of disinfectant. ( We were desperate at the time) Went through that quickly and bought another 1 a week later. Then they sent an email to me stating "We Have What You Need!) I look and they have 1 gal concentrate of the same product we purchased in ready to use. $65 for 1 gallon ,makes 128 gallons! So they charged us over $900 for 55 oz of concentrate and 54.8 gallons of water and a 55 gallon plastic drum. WTF!!@!!!!!! I go this morning and ask for a case of the concentrate. 4 : 1 gal jugs. He comes back out and say I can sell you the RTU 55 gal barrel for $220! I said no, kept my cool and said just give me a case of the concentrate. He brings out 1 gallon. I said I want a case how many gallons are in a case, he says 4, I said I'll take 2 cases then. Didn't want to shoot myself in the foot with our disinfectant supply, but I am super pissed! James Share this post Link to post Share on other sites