AZJR Report post Posted January 31, 2020 What about this one? Looks like a wolf to my eye. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted January 31, 2020 1 hour ago, AZJR said: What about this one? Looks like a wolf to my eye. Choot em Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Northern Pintail Report post Posted January 31, 2020 On 1/7/2020 at 9:51 AM, Alpinebullwinkle said: What frosts me the most is I have located three different wolf feeding stations within one mile of residences in or around Alpine. That is just wrong and asking for trouble, enticing wolf interaction with humans. Those wolf reintroduction resources that are doing that should be incarcerated IMHO !! Additionally, I have trail pictures of wolves in my yard at my Alpine residence. Doesn't make my son and daughter-in-law warm and fuzzy when they visit with the grand kids. Unfortunately it likely is too late to reverse this ill-advised government dog experiment. You know the point of this is to keep them out of town. In theory having a good source just out of town will not give them a reason to go into town. And this whole going after people and kids is ridiculous Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost85 Report post Posted January 31, 2020 30 minutes ago, Northern Pintail said: You know the point of this is to keep them out of town. In theory having a good source just out of town will not give them a reason to go into town. And this whole going after people and kids is ridiculous You know what should happen? They should treat them like actual wild animals and stop feeding them all together. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke-BE Report post Posted January 31, 2020 On 1/10/2020 at 6:05 PM, azbirdhunter88 said: They will keep moving also. I hope the hogs from Texas keep moving and end up here. Love me some hog hunting. Then I won’t have to drive to Texas every year. Im confused! You don't think anyone should shoot buros or wild horses because they are native! Fact the Spaniards brought them over in the 1500s. Also with pigs and let them loose wild in Florida so when they come back they have an extra source of food to hunt because they populate so fast. But cool shooting hogs? 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JLW Report post Posted January 31, 2020 https://blogs.wsj.com/canadarealtime/2013/02/27/who-knew-canada-is-no-3-in-global-horse-meat-export-trade/ canada is no 3 in export of horse meat. pretty sure the machaca the mexicans at my work bring back from sonora is burro meat. tastes good tho James 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6AYoteHunter Report post Posted February 1, 2020 In 6A a couple weeks ago saw this wolf. Big male hanging out near some cattle near Camp Verde. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Northern Pintail Report post Posted February 1, 2020 10 hours ago, GreyGhost85 said: You know what should happen? They should treat them like actual wild animals and stop feeding them all together. I agree but this is their way of trying to prevent cattle depredations and human interactions Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost85 Report post Posted February 1, 2020 19 minutes ago, Northern Pintail said: I agree but this is their way of trying to prevent cattle depredations and human interactions Sooooo..... when humans feed animals, it prevents human interaction? Ever heard the whole “a fed bear is a dead bear” slogan? Why would it not apply to a wolf? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Northern Pintail Report post Posted February 1, 2020 15 hours ago, GreyGhost85 said: Sooooo..... when humans feed animals, it prevents human interaction? Ever heard the whole “a fed bear is a dead bear” slogan? Why would it not apply to a wolf? I think the thought process is because they are feeding them a natural food source. Trash cans for bears are natural for bears Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alpinebullwinkle Report post Posted February 3, 2020 Lets re-introduce the wolves to Phoenix and Tucson. When the wolves start feeding on fido and fefe the rest of the population will become more educated about this ill-advised experiment with government dogs. I know...........an extreme thought process and comment........... But with about equal common sense as what is being used for management of the current re-introduction program. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roninflag Report post Posted February 4, 2020 what an utter and complete joke. not even blonde. why are they selling tags and harvesting elk? if they want to have 16,000 elk again they need to Wait until then to sell ANY tags. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roninflag Report post Posted February 4, 2020 I doubt any wildlife professional will say the decline is due to wolves. and no matter, if they want more elk , restore and improve habitat. and eliminate tags until the desired population is reached. I bet it is easier to draw in Idaho than Arizona. the reason for the decline is due to the continued sale of tags . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BusterAZ Report post Posted February 4, 2020 On 12/30/2019 at 12:45 PM, muley224 said: A very concerning Stat..... While predation by wolves cannot be discounted, it is not the main factor that caused this population decline. Wolves were reintroduced in 1995 and that handful didn’t make substantial kills to this herd for several years. The major environmental factors that caused the elk herd decline was the succession of meadows into forest and harsh winters. The 1996-97 decline was the result of winter kill and not the dozen wolves that were reintroduced. This data is cherry picked to provide a false narrative. Furthermore, the wolf population in this area has been reduced for several years without any elk population rebound. The data points to habitat as the main culprit. Elk don’t have nearly as many food sources in a mature forest as meadow areas. The previously large herds in this region can be attributed to post burn ecosystem that had more food sources for the elk. Essentially, the forest matured and preferred food sources (grasses, shrubs, etc) were choked out by the forest canopy. Below is a link explaining the severity of these historic fires, which kickstarted the secondary succession in this region. https://foresthistory.org/research-explore/us-forest-service-history/policy-and-law/fire-u-s-forest-service/famous-fires/the-1910-fires/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flatlander Report post Posted February 4, 2020 Uhoh. You presented science?! The people will have none of this. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
