Spring Snow Melt and Global Warming

[wetmule]

http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/28629.html

 

Lark, Bill Quimby=Smart dudes with strong foundations of common sense. Add that to your dictionary Bill

[.270]

somebody called me smart, and didn't put @$$ on the end of it. cool. here's another globabl warming article. record snow i guess comes from global warming? Lark.

 

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/W/WET...mp;SECTION=HOME

[.270]

here's another sorta contradictory article. anyway it is if you look at things the way i do. it says that all the pine beetle kiiled trees in canada are gonna start rotting and produce more co2 in 21 years, than 5 years of canadian driving. (interesting how they use 21 years vs 5 to get the point across) and they won't have the live trees to soak up co2. ok, i'll buy that dead trees might give off some co2. but ain't there dead trees every where? makin' co2? everytime i go huntin', i'm trippin' over a dead tree somewhere. the north slopes are so choked off with em ya can't hardly get around. i mean like everywhere except maybe the sahara and the desert in eastern chile? c'mon, there are dead trees, grass, weeds, moss, leaves, etc. etc. everywhere. i mean the earth is covered with em. i'd hafta say about as many dead rotting trees as there are live ones. think they might give off a little co2? the "facts" are always slanted to the cause. like they say, there are liars, dang liars, and statistics. Lark.

 

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/200...les0423-ON.html

 

here's another one that is really cool. scientists are gonna change the weather. i really like how they are gonna fix hurricanes. but, ain't hurricanes just part of nature? don't they serve a purpose? what i really like tho is the 7th paragraph down. just one line. "What is needed, they said, is renewed federal backing of the research." that pretty much says it all to me. and i ain't got a big deal with research. on things that might do some good, other than keep some hacks employed. don't piss down my back and tell me it's rainin'. Lark.

 

 

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_9019726

[wetmule]

Shocking ...........Not!

 

http://www.roguegovernment.com/news.php?id=8474

[.270]

here's another great article supporting global warming. wait, i mean sorta not supporting it. i love the first paragraph. "near record snowfall and low spring tempratures". Lark.

 

http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories...n.91ca3969.html

[Coues 'n' Sheep]

Hey..... not sure if someone else posted this or not, but I just got it in an email and thought it might fuel someone's fire....

 

 

Breaking from Newsmax.com

Scientist: Earth Cooling, Not Warming

A San Francisco-based scientist says that current solar activity strongly indicates that the earth is on the verge of a new ice age.

"Sorry to ruin the fun, but an ice age cometh," warns Phil Chapman writing in The Australian. Chapman is a geophysicist and astronautical engineer who was the first Australian to become a NASA astronaut.

Story continues below . . .

 

"The scariest photo I have seen . . . is at www.spaceweather.com, where you will find a real-time image of the sun from the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory [sOHO], located in deep space at the equilibrium point between solar and terrestrial gravity," Chapman wrote, adding ominously that "what is scary about the picture is that there is only one tiny sunspot."

"This is where SOHO comes in," he explained. "The sunspot number follows a cycle of somewhat variable length, averaging 11 years. The most recent minimum was in March last year. The new cycle, No. 24, was supposed to start soon after that, with a gradual build-up in sunspot numbers."

That, he writes did not happen. "The first sunspot appeared in January this year and lasted only two days. A tiny spot appeared last Monday but vanished within 24 hours. Another little spot appeared this Monday. Pray that there will be many more, and soon."

Why? According to Chapman "there is a close correlation between variations in the sunspot cycle and earth's climate. The previous time a cycle was delayed like this was in the Dalton Minimum, an especially cold period that lasted several decades from 1790. Northern winters became ferocious: in particular, the rout of Napoleon's Grand Army during the retreat from Moscow in 1812 was at least partly due to the lack of sunspots."

Although the rapid temperature decline in 2007 coincided with the failure of cycle No. 24 to begin on schedule is not proof of a causal connection, Chapman warns that it is cause for concern.

"Disconcerting as it may be to true believers in global warming," he explains, "the average temperature on earth has remained steady or slowly declined during the past decade, despite the continued increase in the atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide, and now the global temperature is falling precipitously.

"All four agencies that track earth's temperature [the Hadley Climate Research Unit in Britain, the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York, the Christy group at the University of Alabama, and Remote Sensing Systems Inc in California] report that it cooled by about 0.7 C in 2007." This, he says is "the fastest temperature change in the instrumental record and it puts us back where we were in 1930. If the temperature does not soon recover, we will have to conclude that global warming is over."

Moreover, he says, there is also plenty of anecdotal evidence that 2007 was exceptionally cold, noting that it snowed in Baghdad for the first time in centuries, the winter in China was simply terrible and the extent of Antarctic sea ice in the austral winter was the greatest on record since James Cook discovered the place in 1770.

Chapman wrote that the global warming dogma should be put aside, "at least to begin contingency planning about what to do if we are moving into another little ice age, similar to the one that lasted from 1100 to 1850."

How bad could a new little ice age be? "Much worse than the previous one and much more harmful than anything warming may do. There are many more people now, and we have become dependent on a few temperate agricultural areas, especially in the U.S. and Canada." Global warming, he added, "would increase agricultural output, but global cooling will decrease it. Millions will starve if we do nothing to prepare for it [such as planning changes in agriculture to compensate], and millions more will die from cold-related diseases."

And grim as that outlook is, Chapman predicts that there is also another possibility, remote but much more serious — the Greenland and Antarctic ice cores and other evidence show that for the past several million years, severe glaciation has almost always afflicted our planet and under normal conditions, most of North America and Europe are buried under about 1.5 km of ice.

This bitterly frigid climate is interrupted occasionally by brief warm interglacials, typically lasting less than 10,000 years.

The present interglacial period we have enjoyed throughout recorded human history, called the Holocene, began 11,000 years ago, so an ice age is overdue. And glaciation can occur quickly: The required decline in global temperature is about 12 C and it can happen in 20 years.

His conclusions: "The next descent into an ice age is inevitable but may not happen for another 1,000 years. On the other hand, it must be noted that the cooling in 2007 was even faster than in typical glacial transitions. If it continued for 20 years, the temperature would be 14 C cooler in 2027."

By then, he writes, "most of the advanced nations would have ceased to exist, vanishing under the ice, and the rest of the world would be faced with a catastrophe beyond imagining."

"All those urging action to curb global warming need to take off the blinders and give some thought to what we should do if we are facing global cooling instead," he writes. "It will be difficult for people to face the truth when their reputations, careers, government grants or hopes for social change depend on global warming, but the fate of civilisation may be at stake."

[wklman]

heres some more proof of global warming.these are some pics of my cousins house in Minnesota from yesterday.they got 10 inches of snow friday night. i tried to convince them the earth is warming up but they wouldn't believe me

 

 

 

[.270]

here's another article in the paper today. these articles and photos are really good stuff, because they are real. no theory or other bs. Lark.

 

http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/387743.html

[DesertBull]

Well, I will admit one thing. Units 9,7W and 10 are bone friggen dry. Dusty and no green anywhere. I thought we had a good winter?

[azyoung]

Well, I will admit one thing. Units 9,7W and 10 are bone friggen dry. Dusty and no green anywhere. I thought we had a good winter?

 

 

I thought we did also - lots of snow around Flagstaff and south but I was real surprised how dry 9 was a few weeks ago. Real dry!

[.270]

heck, it's still too cold for anything to green up. freezing every night above the rim. as soon as the global warming starts (re. springtime) it'll green up. Lark.

[EBB]

Termites and cattle add a tremendous amount of Co2 to the atmosphere as well as methane. This adds to Global Warming.

Now, since elk and deer are both ungulates, as are cattle, i was wondering. In the interest of cutting down on greenhouse gasses do you think the G & F Commission would sell me an elk tag (even though they previously chose to pink slip me), so I can help save the world? I'll even promise to step on all the termites I see while out hunting! EBB

[Non-Typical Solutions]

"Termites and cattle add a tremendous amount of Co2 to the atmosphere as well as methane."

 

 

And my son as well.....

 

I planted some trees on my property about two weeks ago, it was like scooping ice cream, the ground underneath is real damp and looks good around these parts as far as moisture......I know though, up in Unit 10, in the past you could drive across the pipeline road way out there and see exactly where the moisture was....or wasn't......give it a little more time and you will be able to tell how things are gonna be up there.