Mathews Report post Posted November 15, 2019 45 minutes ago, Heat said: Newsflash, if you get an animal scored by 2 out of the 3 clubs that do scoring, deductions are part of that score. Get over it! Besides he never specified which scoring method or SCI specifically. Not sure what your beef is with me or this topic in general. Other people on here mentioned deductions and I don't see you harrassing them. Besides, you are late to the party. This thread is almost 2 months old, resurfacing for some unknown reason. The funny thing is, I tend to agree with you that a gross score is more meaningful, but thats not how 2 of the major clubs do things. Again, I don't make the rules, nor have I ever had any if my animals measured. Can we just agree to disagree and move on? Settle down pard 😂 nobody brought it up but you. No need to take away inches from a deer that wasn’t even killed lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHT_MTNMAN Report post Posted November 15, 2019 After many years of looking at trail cam pics and then live pics and video and then dead critters, I can about 100% guarantee that buck is bigger than 150. I would even go out on a limb and say it is close to 170 but who knows. What is even worse is trying to judge a buck on trail camera in the dark. The darkness takes a lot away 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KoosCrazy Report post Posted November 15, 2019 I say 170 frame but since he is missing a point and in velvet I would bring him in the 155-160’s. Pretty deer no matter what. I’ve been known to mid judge deer by a few inches too!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TOBY Report post Posted November 16, 2019 Most guys here buy their tapes from A3 I think. Only scores here I trust are stickflikr and bohuntr. Any score from a horn tooting outfitter tramp stamper is meaningless regardless what year it is. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mathews Report post Posted November 17, 2019 23 hours ago, TOBY said: Most guys here buy their tapes from A3 I think. Only scores here I trust are stickflikr and bohuntr. Any score from a horn tooting outfitter tramp stamper is meaningless regardless what year it is. LOL you’re still on that.. jealousy is ugly bud. I posted a couple pictures and a story like everyone else on here and that’s the route you took 😂 get over it. Watermarks are part of the business, if people could kill things for themselves and not try to take credit for other people’s work they wouldn’t exist, but that’s the world we live in. You can come score it yourself if it helps you sleep at night Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TOBY Report post Posted November 18, 2019 I just think hand held animals should not be allowed in the books, if so with an asterisk and a dollar sign. The deer is amazing regardless of score. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mathews Report post Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, TOBY said: I just think hand held animals should not be allowed in the books, if so with an asterisk and a dollar sign. The deer is amazing regardless of score. Wtf is a hand held animal? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRDATR Report post Posted November 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, Mathews said: Wtf is a hand held animal? High Fence, farm raised. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swivelhead Report post Posted November 18, 2019 19 minutes ago, Mathews said: Wtf is a hand held animal? I believe he is referring to a guided hunter, as in "hand held, there he is, shoot him." IIRC, the books are about honoring the animal. Unfortunately, the books stir many to compete. There are many reasons to use an outfitter/guide, most of them good. DIY is obviously more fullfilling but not always practical. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mathews Report post Posted November 18, 2019 23 minutes ago, Swivelhead said: I believe he is referring to a guided hunter, as in "hand held, there he is, shoot him." IIRC, the books are about honoring the animal. Unfortunately, the books stir many to compete. There are many reasons to use an outfitter/guide, most of them good. DIY is obviously more fullfilling but not always practical. Well considering my dads younger brother is the outfitter and I work for him.. not exactly hand held. Also DIY on the strip is as impractical as it gets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mathews Report post Posted November 18, 2019 30 minutes ago, PRDATR said: High Fence, farm raised. It came out of 13b.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swivelhead Report post Posted November 18, 2019 37 minutes ago, Mathews said: Also DIY on the strip is as impractical as it gets. Assuming one lives <500 miles away, the strip is doable, many go unguided. DIY in Kyrgyzstan or the Zambezi Valley are "impractical as it gets". BTW, are you done trolling yet? This thread is way beyond hijacked. Nice buck posted by the OP. I'd take him in a heartbeat. A mature desert buck is a special deer. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Delw Report post Posted November 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Mathews said: Also DIY on the strip is as impractical as it gets. HAHAHA put down the meth pipe fool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mathews Report post Posted November 18, 2019 7 hours ago, Swivelhead said: Assuming one lives <500 miles away, the strip is doable, many go unguided. DIY in Kyrgyzstan or the Zambezi Valley are "impractical as it gets". BTW, are you done trolling yet? This thread is way beyond hijacked. Nice buck posted by the OP. I'd take him in a heartbeat. A mature desert buck is a special deer. How am I trolling? Show me one guy who goes up there DIY and kills a 200” buck and I’ll show you a dozen others that don’t edit: This whole conversation is stupid. The fact is the strip is a miserable place. If you don’t have 100 cameras and a small army it’s hard to compete. Most guys will hunt up there once and never go back and I don’t blame them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TOBY Report post Posted November 18, 2019 15 hours ago, Mathews said: Well considering my dads younger brother is the outfitter and I work for him.. not exactly hand held. It doesnt get any more hand held than that. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
