apache12 Report post Posted August 6, 2019 So my family was up camping in the White mtn Apache nation and we heard what sounded like a strange mix between weak elk bugles and not quite coyote noise. So my son packed up to go investigate and he took this pics. We think it was a Mexican wolf with two pups. And a coyote stalking the pups. He was in a bowl with a Meadow in the bottom and then trees all around the bowl. The mama would stare at him and bark like a dog. You’ll see she has the collar if you zoom in. Then in two spots surrounding him in the bowl she would call to what he thinks were other wolves and they’d call back. Then There are two smaller pups following her. And then a lone coyote we think lurking behind them. He was about 100 yards away so when he was there he thought he was just looking at coyote it wasn’t until he got home he blew up the pics and saw the collar and what he thought was a coyote looked like a wolf. We’ve never seen Mexican wolves so we thought this page in the forum would have some knowledge. Is that a wolf and pups. And then a yote? Their sound are unlike anything we’d heard before. We’ve heard hundreds of bugles and coyotes this was different. Hope you enjoy the pics. Glad to know your thoughts Pics are in order of mama, mama, pup,pup, coyote Hope they post that way Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjl2010 Report post Posted August 6, 2019 Are they protected on the reservation? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muledeerarea33? Report post Posted August 6, 2019 Barked like a dog because they’re mixed with dog and not pure wolf. The un collared dog might be off spring that hasn’t been collared. Can’t tell really well on my phone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRDATR Report post Posted August 6, 2019 I've heard plenty of coyotes bark. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goma Report post Posted August 6, 2019 My wife and I saw something similar to this 3 years ago up at Knoll lake area. Looked a bit larger as it ran through campgrounds about 50yds from us, not all that concerned. It also could be a "coy-wolf" hybrid. They are having issues with them back east as they are moving west. My brother shot one 4-5 years ago in Maine, walked right by him. Sent me a pic. (on my old phone) so I'll see if I can recover it, but basically a large 50lbish coyote with a wolf like snout, and head. good luck goma Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost85 Report post Posted August 6, 2019 The only photo that i am not 100% sure on whether it is a wolf or not is the animal in the last photo. The others are definitely wolves. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
apache12 Report post Posted August 7, 2019 Greyghost85. That’s exactly what he saw. Dog in last pic looked like a coyotes chasing the mamas wolf pups. One coyote though? Crazy right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost85 Report post Posted August 7, 2019 I wish i could be more excited for you. The first time i saw a wolf, it was cool...after seeing 50+ the last 15 years or so, they start to lose their luster. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThomC Report post Posted August 7, 2019 Little Red Riding Hood said years ago " We dont need no stinkin wolves." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildwoody Report post Posted August 7, 2019 Wolves, my vote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke-BE Report post Posted August 8, 2019 The only time I think I saw one was a 1/4 mile from reservation lake. He was on a dead sprint but it looked heavier than normal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites