lancetkenyon Report post Posted July 17, 2019 The raffle tag owner still had to hire a guide, so yes, break out the checkbook. Although, if I was fortunate enough to win the Super Raffle Tag, I would probably hire a guide too. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reming700 Report post Posted July 18, 2019 Hey guys I’m a new member to this forum so I drew a bill tag late November threw December in unit 4B first time ever drawing a bull always hunted Coues in southern Az I’m looking for tips I don’t want your guys good spots or nothing just some guidance. I’ve been researching and asking questions all I’ve gotten is that it’s gonna be a hard hunt thanks for your guys help Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZBIG10 Report post Posted July 18, 2019 Try the forest area. Look where areas where bulls are Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reming700 Report post Posted July 18, 2019 Ok you think if I see bulls in late September when I go up there they will be around that area in late November? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QCwtAddict Report post Posted July 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Reming700 said: Ok you think if I see bulls in late September when I go up there they will be around that area in late November? Not likely Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JLW Report post Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Reming700 said: Ok you think if I see bulls in late September when I go up there they will be around that area in late November? https://www.azgfd.com/hunting/units/pinetop/4b/ read the unit info on game and fish website. I find most of the time they are spot on with starting points and helpful tips. scouting the areas to learn roads, terrain, ect. will be a must so you're not wondering aimlessly. good luck! james Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRDATR Report post Posted July 18, 2019 That time of year can be dry or 2' of snow so be prepared. It's a good tag to have. With monsoon rains hitting the rim country now would be a great time to get up there and get familiar with the unit and find potential places to camp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reming700 Report post Posted July 18, 2019 Thanks bud appreciate the help Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lancetkenyon Report post Posted July 18, 2019 Don't let the idea of seeing bulls now but they won't be there in November dissuade you. I see bulls up high every year in other units, exactly where I see them through the summer. It is HUNTING pressure that will push them. They could still be in the same general areas, but they will be holed up in the thick, nasty, inaccessible places in the unit by end of November. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maximus Report post Posted July 18, 2019 On 7/15/2019 at 3:54 PM, bigorange said: No powerlines... hahaha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wish2hunt Report post Posted July 18, 2019 6 hours ago, Reming700 said: Hey guys I’m a new member to this forum so I drew a bill tag late November threw December in unit 4B first time ever drawing a bull always hunted Coues in southern Az I’m looking for tips I don’t want your guys good spots or nothing just some guidance. I’ve been researching and asking questions all I’ve gotten is that it’s gonna be a hard hunt thanks for your guys help It will be a tough hunt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reming700 Report post Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, lancetkenyon said: Don't let the idea of seeing bulls now but they won't be there in November dissuade you. I see bulls up high every year in other units, exactly where I see them through the summer. It is HUNTING pressure that will push them. They could still be in the same general areas, but they will be holed up in the thick, nasty, inaccessible places in the unit by end of November. Thanks so focus in areas that are hard to reach like deep canyons where we wouldn’t expect to see a bull Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRDATR Report post Posted July 19, 2019 41 minutes ago, Reming700 said: Thanks so focus in areas that are hard to reach like deep canyons where we wouldn’t expect to see a bull Hate to say it but they are where you find them. Like Coues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yotebuster Report post Posted July 19, 2019 5 hours ago, AZBIG10 said: Try the forest area. Look where areas where bulls are Not sure if he’s joking here or not but he’s actually right on the money in that unit. Take a highlighter to your map and highlight 1 mile out on every open FS trail. Now take another highlighter and highlight what remains. The answer is exceptionally small in that unit. Get the wind in your face and a scope that is at very max 3x on the bottom end and slowly walk through it. Enough bulls in there where if you do that right in the areas I’m talking about you’ll kill one in a day. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reming700 Report post Posted July 19, 2019 48 minutes ago, PRDATR said: Hate to say it but they are where you find them. Like Coues. So the best thing to do is glass glass and glass like I would with Coues right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
