Maricopa Teacher Report post Posted March 22, 2019 Hello . I am an instructor among my village ( Maricopa) I am reaching out to this group in search of a Deer donation . I am seeking a whole Deer minus the carcass . I need the Deer for instruction with the young boys in my village 12 years and up. We will teach them the tanning process and how to make a historical Deer hunter disguise . I am 59 years old ( an elder ) and also disabled . I cant go out to harvest my own Deer . You may google my name and Apache Teacher to learn more about my work , also you may see work I am doing now with our youth on my Facebook account . Blessings 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maricopa Teacher Report post Posted March 22, 2019 a Maricopa fishing class , Maricopa Fish Basket and gear. Fish Basket: Willow twig with a Mesquite root hoop tied on with Agave cactus fiber twined . Fishing pole : Giant reed with cotton line and a pumice stone fish float and a Fish Hook Barrel cactus spine for the Hook Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edge Report post Posted March 23, 2019 Welcome aboard, Richard. Look around the forum and post away. Hope to get with you soon on traditional bow making. Do you give pointers on napping as well? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRDATR Report post Posted March 23, 2019 58 minutes ago, Maricopa Teacher said: a Maricopa fishing class , Maricopa Fish Basket and gear. Fish Basket: Willow twig with a Mesquite root hoop tied on with Agave cactus fiber twined . Fishing pole : Giant reed with cotton line and a pumice stone fish float and a Fish Hook Barrel cactus spine for the Hook Yes as Tom said Welcome Richard, glad you found us. I have seen your posts on Facebook this past week. Arizona has a lot of volcanic rock but I have yet to find pumice. I found much of it in my youth on Long Island. I don't know if they used it but on our small island there were thirteen tribes. The Canarsie, Rockaway, Matinecock, Merrick, Massapequa, Nissequoge, Secatoag, Seatauket, Patchoag, Corchaug, Shinnecock, Manhasset and Montauk. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muledeerarea33? Report post Posted March 23, 2019 So your looking for a deer, while skin, bones, hooves? Just no meat? If that’s the case I’d start looking in August-January. I’ll keep an eye out if I get or hear of any salvage tags this summer 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maricopa Teacher Report post Posted March 23, 2019 Thank you for your kindness I have had a few come forward with a Deer but so far it has been just talk . One guy in San Diego has one but is slow to reply . I did ask him if he is willing to ship it to me I am growing old waiting to find out . I hate to even say I also could use a pronghorn Shavillquinnor Feather of many colors Buzzard clan Maricopa tribe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildwoody Report post Posted March 23, 2019 Welcome, I will check around 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CatfishKev Report post Posted March 23, 2019 Awesome to see you teaching the next generation. Once upon a time I was gonna be a teacher, then I found out I can't stand other people's children. Now I own a business and I'm essentially a babysitter of grown men. Only marginally better then being a teacher. Unfortunately it's the wrong time of year for your needs, next deer hunt will be in August. So are you basically looking for a hide? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maricopa Teacher Report post Posted March 23, 2019 1 hour ago, PRDATR said: Yes as Tom said Welcome Richard, glad you found us. I have seen your posts on Facebook this past week. Arizona has a lot of volcanic rock but I have yet to find pumice. I found much of it in my youth on Long Island. I don't know if they used it but on our small island there were thirteen tribes. The Canarsie, Rockaway, Matinecock, Merrick, Massapequa, Nissequoge, Secatoag, Seatauket, Patchoag, Corchaug, Shinnecock, Manhasset and Montauk. 3 minutes ago, CatfishKev said: Awesome to see you teaching the next generation. Once upon a time I was gonna be a teacher, then I found out I can't stand other people's children. Now I own a business and I'm essentially a babysitter of grown men. Only marginally better then being a teacher. Unfortunately it's the wrong time of year for your needs, next deer hunt will be in August. So are you basically looking for a hide? I have been contacted by men who say they have a complete deer in the freezer , but it has only been talk no action yet. I am reaching out to every one to see if some one would come froward with an intact hide . It may be a Couse white tail or a Mule Deer . I am also seeking a pronghorn . I am willing to invite the donor to my class and watch the tanning process ( I could use some help also )and also to our celebrations Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maricopa Teacher Report post Posted March 23, 2019 Dr. Leslie Spier did his research among my people in 1930 He described what the current life was like and what life was like by questioning elders and other adults. He observed the Boys of the village using Giant reed poles ( very large ) I have 4 in my home that are over 7 1/2 feet tall ) cotton fishing line ( I stand in one place hand braiding these for hours ) and pumice stone floats with Fisk Hook cactus spines for the hooks . He does not say where the stone was gathered at , but I can only imagine that may have had access to this at the local store? I would love to research this in Arizona as we traveled to many places and traded with my tribes in Mexico all the way to northern Arizona with the Hopi. We also hunted Apaches all of them for our selves and for the US Calvary 1865-1866 Arizona first volunteers later to become the Arizona national guard and then the Bush Masters of world two then retired our last mission what to knock out radar on an island close to Japan to allow the Nola Gay to set off the Atom Bomb. My photo shows this fishing pole and gear. My question for you is : Of all the tribes you have named how many are still around or have then been killed off ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maricopa Teacher Report post Posted March 23, 2019 37 minutes ago, wildwoody said: Welcome, I will check around I could use your help and also the young men of my village . You may also be invited to see this process and you may also help tan the hide and learn other ways of my tribe as time goes by Blessings 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maricopa Teacher Report post Posted March 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Edge said: Welcome aboard, Richard. Look around the forum and post away. Hope to get with you soon on traditional bow making. Do you give pointers on napping as well? I would welcome any and all help with traditional bow work and arrows . Do you know what woods were use by the Yaqui for bows . If you find this out I would be happy to help you carve one with arrow weed and cane arrows ' I have used Iron wood for the heads they last longer then knapped heads all it takes is one miss and the head will shatter . With Iron wood you miss and all you need do is resharpen it . They work great for Deer Javalina and when made small Rabbits Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maricopa Teacher Report post Posted March 23, 2019 1 hour ago, CatfishKev said: Awesome to see you teaching the next generation. Once upon a time I was gonna be a teacher, then I found out I can't stand other people's children. Now I own a business and I'm essentially a babysitter of grown men. Only marginally better then being a teacher. Unfortunately it's the wrong time of year for your needs, next deer hunt will be in August. So are you basically looking for a hide? This is why I only teach Boys 12 years and up . I got no time to deal with unruly kids . Your heart sounds like it is in a good place, with your Business . I am seeking help with obtaining an in -tact hide with the Head , antlers , neck in place and not cut into and the total hide down to the hoofs in place . I will teach our boys how to tan and prepare the skull plate with two holes to tie it to your head and also the paint used to color the hunters face arms and legs . I am also looking for a rack to teach the boys how to rattle for the deer while in this deer disguise , Deer are hunted year round on my reservation If I was not so disabled I would hunt them myself Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CatfishKev Report post Posted March 23, 2019 That sounds like some great teaching. My one word of caution would be never use deer camouflage while hunting during a rifle season. You don't want someone shooting at you thinking you are an actual deer! I think you need to be patient until the next AZ hunt. Full bodies are hard to come by right now. Very interested in seeing more of your posts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maricopa Teacher Report post Posted March 23, 2019 43 minutes ago, CatfishKev said: That sounds like some great teaching. My one word of caution would be never use deer camouflage while hunting during a rifle season. You don't want someone shooting at you thinking you are an actual deer! I think you need to be patient until the next AZ hunt. Full bodies are hard to come by right now. Very interested in seeing more of your posts. I agree with your words . I have been contacted by a few hunters but so far its only words no result . The Hunting Disguise is only to be used as a teaching aid and to be used in our festivals . this historical practice has not been done in over a hundred years . This is something I am trying to bring back if only to be shown 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
