BowhunterAZ Report post Posted February 25, 2019 I may regret starting a debate, but would love some input... I need a bigger truck, but am terrified that I’ll hate a diesel for off- road and hunting. Looking at crew cab, short bed 250s and 2500s. I’m looking at 2017-new. Here are some questions. 1.) for those of you who have gone from a half ton to diesel, how bad is the drop off in off-road capability? Did you hate the change? 2.) what are the pros and cons for the ford straight front axle vs GM’s independent front suspension? Which is better off-road? 3) don’t worry about telling me about dodges, lol thanks in advance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjl2010 Report post Posted February 25, 2019 Why would it matter off road whether it’s a diesel or gas truck? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BowhunterAZ Report post Posted February 25, 2019 Oh, so sorry... didn’t want to write out 3/4 ton throughout my post. Thanks for the technical correction. I get there are half ton diesels now, but my guess is the majority of people know what I’m referring to when I said diesel. Thanks for the valuable input. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BowhunterAZ Report post Posted February 25, 2019 Oh, so sorry... didn’t want to write out 3/4 ton throughout my post. Thanks for the technical correction. I get there are half ton diesels now, but my guess is the majority of people know what I’m referring to when I said diesel. Thanks for the valuable input. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucafu1 Report post Posted February 25, 2019 I'm a Ford fanboy. IMO a solid front axle is awesome. Both of the powertrains are good but Chevy messed up with their stupid DEF tank hanging so dang low. I would not want to chance taking it offroad too much. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BowhunterAZ Report post Posted February 25, 2019 And diesel and gas engines will perform differently off-road, so I’m not even sure what your original point is Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BowhunterAZ Report post Posted February 25, 2019 Just now, Lucafu1 said: I'm a Ford fanboy. IMO a solid front axle is awesome. Both of the powertrains are good but Chevy messed up with their stupid DEF tank hanging so dang low. I would not want to chance taking it offroad too much. Oh, good point. I didn’t even think about that. I’m a ford guy too, so I’m with you. I just assume all bigger trucks suck off-road though and if one is demonstrably better off-road, it would get the nod Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucafu1 Report post Posted February 25, 2019 Ford is coming out with a new 7.3L gas engine, I cant wait to drive one and possibly buy one in 10 years🤣 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjl2010 Report post Posted February 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, BowhunterAZ said: And diesel and gas engines will perform differently off-road, so I’m not even sure what your original point is My point is why would it matter gas or diesel? What’s your budget? All trucks suck off road compared to side by sides. If you have a strong budget and plan to use your truck often off-road give Carli a call and set it up correctly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firstcoueswas80 Report post Posted February 25, 2019 I have a 2007 3/4 dodge diesel. Ive been very happy with the offroad ride, especially after I installed Bilstein shocks. Only had an issue one time when my dumbass decided to Ford a river.... if it was Oregon Trail, the game would have been over. Straight front axel fords will rattle your fillings out of your teeth. Avoid at all costs. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BowhunterAZ Report post Posted February 25, 2019 1 minute ago, cjl2010 said: My point is why would it matter gas or diesel? What’s your budget? All trucks suck off road compared to side by sides. If you have a strong budget and plan to use your truck often off-road give Carli a call and set it up correctly. I got ya. That’s true. I’ve thought about buying an ohv of some kind. That might be the best option. Im not sure who carli is Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BowhunterAZ Report post Posted February 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, cjl2010 said: My point is why would it matter gas or diesel? What’s your budget? All trucks suck off road compared to side by sides. If you have a strong budget and plan to use your truck often off-road give Carli a call and set it up correctly. My big problem is that I’ll need to pull a living quarters horse trailer, so I can’t do a whole bunch in terms of big lifts and other modifications. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjl2010 Report post Posted February 25, 2019 Carli suspension Truck Vs side by side is really no comparison. I try hard to never have to take my truck over my ranger. A day in the truck might be warmer but you feel beat up at the end of the day. Budget always decides how smooth of a ride you want 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BowhunterAZ Report post Posted February 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, cjl2010 said: Carli suspension Truck Vs side by side is really no comparison. I try hard to never have to take my truck over my ranger. A day in the truck might be warmer but you feel beat up at the end of the day. Budget always decides how smooth of a ride you want Got ya. I think that might just need to be the equation with a sxs and a 3/4 ton. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjl2010 Report post Posted February 25, 2019 I went to a few cumminsforum meets in the valley. Some of those SRP guys have some ridiculous trucks! Most of them will take you for a ride and you will be shocked how smooth you can make a diesel truck. Just depends how much money you want to spend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
