Is this archers paradox or bad form?

[Rag Horn]

So I have narrowed it down to one of four things. It’s either bad shooting form, the archers paradox, an optical illusion or something else. I am hoping you guys have some insight on this. 

 

Sometimes when i shoot shoot I see or think I see my arrow kinda snake down range. I tried to draw it below. It doesn’t happen every shot. But every once in a while I see it. What is causing this?

I have wondered if maybe inadvertently I occasionally put too much pressure on the bow string with my my lip and nose anchor points. 

 

Thoughts? Thanks 

[TOBY]

Arrow rest off center or your flinching causing a fishtail sometimes. Probably wrist torque

[buddydog]

Try shooting through paper. You may find its a problem with form, rest, fletching or spine

[oz31p]

What are you shooting?

[AZ8]

Spine issue. 

[Rag Horn]

14 minutes ago, buddydog said:

Try shooting through paper. You may find its a problem with form, rest, fletching or spine

I shot it through paper when I bought and had the bow tuned and it “punched bullet” holes. So I think my set up is ok  but my shooting form is highly suspect  however

 

12 minutes ago, oz31p said:

What are you shooting?

I am shooting a 70 pound draw 28” gold tip hunter XT arrow. 

 

Thanks for the help

[BOWUNTR]

It's called fishtailing... could be caused by one or more reasons. Start with tuning your bow then work on your form. Consult with someone who knows what they are doing. Ed F

[Rag Horn]

1 minute ago, BOWUNTR said:

It's called fishtailing... could be caused by one or more reasons. Start with tuning your bow then work on your form. Consult with someone who knows what they are doing. Ed F

Ok I will do my research on fishtailing. I didn’t know it had a name so I was unable to really dig up any info online. Thanks. 

[TOBY]

Fishtail left to right

Porpising up and down flight

[CatfishKev]

Take a sharpie and mark the arrow. See if it's the same one everytime.

[Rag Horn]

34 minutes ago, CatfishKev said:

Take a sharpie and mark the arrow. See if it's the same one everytime.

Oh good idea. I have them all numbered for something else I was trying to troubleshoot earlier. Would be easy to do. Thanks. 

[elecshoc]

Archers paradox on a bow shooting a release is up and down, with fingers its left to right.  If your setup is legit fishtailing then its a symptom of multiple adjustments out of tune.

I would do two things.  First a bareshaft tune, that will should show you any issues with your tune.  After do a walk back tune to fix the finer adjustments.  Usually once you bareshaft tune a setup it will shoot fine afterwards.  

Also it just could be a optical illusion as well with your eye just catching the lighter fletching and following that down range.  

[CatfishKev]

Depending on arrow rest could be something as simple as the nock turned and fletchings are hitting it.  

[Rag Horn]

2 hours ago, elecshoc said:

Archers paradox on a bow shooting a release is up and down, with fingers its left to right.  If your setup is legit fishtailing then its a symptom of multiple adjustments out of tune.

I would do two things.  First a bareshaft tune, that will should show you any issues with your tune.  After do a walk back tune to fix the finer adjustments.  Usually once you bareshaft tune a setup it will shoot fine afterwards.  

Also it just could be a optical illusion as well with your eye just catching the lighter fletching and following that down range.  

If a bow is out of tune will it fishtail everytime? I only see it once in while which made me believe it was something I was doing to cause it. I believed up to this point if it was a tuning issue the fishtailing would be more consistent? Am I wrong in thinking that? Thanks for the replies. 

[Rag Horn]

2 hours ago, CatfishKev said:

Depending on arrow rest could be something as simple as the nock turned and fletchings are hitting it.  

When I first bought my bow I had a problem with fletchings hitting my drop away rest and I had to turn them to miss the cable and rest. I hope I ruled that out as an issue but I should re check that. Thanks