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Javelina, pig or rodent?

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Guest 300ultramag.

neither... and they taste fine just get them as brats..

 

they are from brazil.

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they are peccary, real close relatives of pigs. they only have one dew claw on i think the hind leg, instead of 2 (i'll hafta make bullwidgeon pull off his shoes next time i see him) and they have a muskbag, which true swine don't have. they are not in hardly anyway, other than they are mammals, related to rodents, and anyone who says they are is fulla bs. awhile back i heard bob hirsch say they were rodents on his radio show. always thought he had more smarts than that. i saw em call em rodents on the allen warren hunting show. didn't surprise me none, seein' as he is an idiot anyway. i've heard a buncha folks say that too, but it ain't so. i think it all comes from the fact that they have big canine teeth that self sharpen. rodent's big teeth are in the front, like ol' bucky beaver, and they continually gnaw on stuff and it keeps em wore down. and they have paws, not hooves. and they don't have a flat, prehensile nose, like a pig. the word javelina comes from the word jabali, which is spanish, for wild pig. (in spanish you usually pronounce the letter "B" like a "V", sorta.) when the spanish came here from europe and first saw the peccary, they started callin' em jabalina, or little wild pig. it doesn't mean "javelin" like i've heard a lotta folks say. javelinas are neat little critter. with their poor eyesight, small size, inability to handle real cold weather or deep snow, it's amazing to me that they can thrive like they do in some real inhospitable terrain. they hafta be one tough little critter. Lark.

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I think some smart guy must have found Larks password to the site! There's no way such an educated response could have come from him. :)

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Below is the lead from one of my old articles on javelina. -TONY

 

The scientific types say prehistoric peccaries once roamed much of the United States but eventually went the way of the dinosaurs. Today, only the collared peccary commonly known as the javelina, likely a migrant from Mexico, inhabits America’s southwest desert areas.

 

The evidence from archeological sites indicate the javelina probably arrived here after 1700 A.D. Excavations of any sites that existed before that date have yielded no bones or other remnants that could be tied to the collared peccary -- an unusual finding considering the javelina makes for good eating. In the mid-1700s, two Jesuit missionaries first wrote about javelina by noting the use of “musk hogs” for food by the Sonoran Indians of northern Mexico. Then by the mid-1800s, the early explorers and trappers in Arizona were writing about the wild swine, pig, musk hog or whatever other name to they could conjure up.

 

Many people erroneously believe the javelina’s name came about because of it pointed snout or its exaggerated canine teeth, often referred to as tusks and maybe a kin to the spear-like javelin.

 

As a biologist at the Arizona Game and Fish Department, Jerry Day spent 25 years on javelina research. In his definitive book, JAVELINA: RESEARCH & MANAGEMENT IN ARIZONA, Day claims the common name likely resulted from "jabalina," the Spanish word for a female wild boar. The light, narrow band of hair around the javelina's neck provided its taxonomical name Tayassu tajucu -- the collared peccary. Although many folks often call them pigs, the peccaries have no biological connection to the swine family.

 

According to Day, the first use of “javelina” showed up in some writings during the 1800s in Texas. The Spanish pronunciation of a “j”sounding like an “h” likely resulted in various spellings such as “havelenas” or “havalinas.” The earliest reference in Arizona happened when the State Game Warden declared the javelina as a “game animal” in 1929. Nearly 25 years passed before sport hunters realized they could have fun chasing the unique mammal.

 

Historians frequently recount a story about the late Winston Churchill's experience at a dinner for some of England's more affluent citizens. As was common for Mr. Churchill, he over indulged on some liquid spirits.

 

A prim and proper lady at the table became somewhat miffed at his behavior. She turned to him and indignantly remarked, "Mr. Churchill, you are drunk!"

 

The statesman frowned, then curtly responded to the righteous matron. "Madam, when I wake up in the morning I will be sober. When you wake up, you will still be ugly."

 

Some folks feel the same way about the prehistoric-looking javelina, a somewhat homely critter that chews cactus and smells bad. Yet despite the javelina’s Rodney Dangerfield reputation of no respect among some, the little critter has endeared itself in the hearts of many hunters over the last few decades. For the thousands of hunters who traipse over the southwestern foothills each year in search of the little desert ghosts, the adage, "Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder," rings quite true.

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Javelinas are related to javelinas. The only way they can be related to pigs or rodents is by marraige, but animals don't do that. Maybe there are some liberal ASPCA folks on the East or West coasts that can have it done for them.

Mike

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Lark, I have seen em in 5BN, runnin in 1 1/2 feet of snows, I think bullwidegon was the last one... big, ugly and i saw it run into a few trees while i was wacthing it...

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Below is the lead from one of my old articles on javelina. -TONY

 

Although many folks often call them pigs, the peccaries have no biological connection to the swine family.

they are in the family suidae. that kinda seems like a connection to me.

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Yep, not a pig at all but rather a relative to the hippo. At least according to the research I did many moons ago for a research paper. Weird!

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Javelinas marry hippos??!

Mike

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