Logging the Tongass NF

[SilentButDeadly]

This p@#$es me off.

 

"The Bush administration's new management plan for the Tongass National Forest will raise no revenue for the U.S. government, as the U.S. taxpayers will have to pay to build the roads the timber companies need to access the forest."

 

http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/jan2008/2008-01-25-095.asp

 

I've never been to AK, so does that mean I shouldn't be upset they are going to build roads up there? I also don't want to be a hypocrite, I walked every old logging road I could on my New Mexico elk hunt last year.

[ac guy]

The only thing that bothers me is taxpayers are paying for roads. There may be good reason for that, perhaps revenue generated from taxes on the logging companies. I like how they say there will be only fields of stumps left. They obviously have no idea how logging companies make sure the land is clean and replanted with new sapplings before they leave. They may also be taking out the large, older trees only, so the younger stuff will grow. Just trying to add other views to it. That's a pretty leftist website. And if they say that "global warming" is going to destroy those trees anyway, why protect them?

[AZP&Y]

Neo,

 

I have been to Alaska 11 times, but never to the Tongass. It is the epi-center of southeast Alaska. As pristine a National Forest as you will find left in the Northern Hemisphere if not the globe.

 

G.W. can't get his paws on the Brooks Range and Arctic National Wildlife Refuge so he settled for the Tongass. If he had his way he would have every oil rig possible pumping 24 -7 - 365 to ease the oil crunch and the floundering economic state of this country.

Protection over the land has been a deep battle for more than 7 years!

 

When you do make it to the last frontier, make sure you trek off of any Forest/logging roads and see the Real Alaska...

 

I already have my flight booked for July 2008 - Can't wait.

 

 

 

AzP&Y

[Diamondbackaz]

This p@#$es me off.

 

"The Bush administration's new management plan for the Tongass National Forest will raise no revenue for the U.S. government, as the U.S. taxpayers will have to pay to build the roads the timber companies need to access the forest."

 

http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/jan2008/2008-01-25-095.asp

 

I've never been to AK, so does that mean I shouldn't be upset they are going to build roads up there? I also don't want to be a hypocrite, I walked every old logging road I could on my New Mexico elk hunt last year.

 

 

Shows your ignorance. Don't compare this Forest to something in Arizona or New Mexico. I've been on the Tongass on a detail when I worked for the Forest Service. Most of the that forest's practical use is logging. Most of this Forest is very isolated and is accessed by boat or plane. This is a huge Forest with three areas with three Forest supervisors. When doing my work in the remote areas, I had to stay near the work centers or have one of their guys walk with me carrying a 375 H&H mag, the prefered bear poison up there.

[SilentButDeadly]

Shows your ignorance. Don't compare this Forest to something in Arizona or New Mexico. I've been on the Tongass on a detail when I worked for the Forest Service. Most of the that forest's practical use is logging. Most of this Forest is very isolated and is accessed by boat or plane. This is a huge Forest with three areas with three Forest supervisors. When doing my work in the remote areas, I had to stay near the work centers or have one of their guys walk with me carrying a 375 H&H mag, the prefered bear poison up there.

 

I'd prefer if you didn't call me ignorant. I put this issue out for people to comment on, not for them to comment on me. I have a graduate degree in forest ecology. I absolutely understand the value of forest products, I disagree with tax payers building new roads for private company profit. This measure has already been shot down in Congress three times.

 

As the article states: "Tongass logging fell dramatically in the 1990s, and for years now has existed at levels that do not require slicing roads and clearcuts into virgin old-growth forests, as the Forest Service itself has acknowledged."

 

Here is a tax snippet: http://www.taxpayer.net/forest/tongass/

Tyson

[DesertBull]

If you ever make it up there, you will see the real crime of devastation belongs to those that live on the reservations. They have cut nearly every tree on their land.