Swaroviski 15x56 and minox 15x58 BR

[ajohunter]

In my mind, you are leaving out the "top dog"of binos. The Leica Duovids. They have the best glass of all, and in my mind ( in my side by side comparison to Swaros) they are clearer.

 

Now, the 10+15x50 are not as big around as the Swaros but in the side by side comparison I came to the conclusion that there isnot enoungh difference in brightness to change anything in a HUNTING situation!

 

Dont waste your money with the duovids. There is a reason why Swarovski sells a lot more, they are better.

I guess Bass Pro got rid of their Leica selection, the optics guy informed me of this his exact words " they do not sell enough". They are more expensive then Swarovski, but "clearly" are not as good. I love the feud between Swarovski and Leica they are both good but Swarovski still wins out.

 

 

Your right, i doubt Leica sells as much as Swarovski does. Most people pay for the name when it comes to Swaros. Leica has to be doing something right since they have been around for ever ( Leitz before they were Leica)

 

The duovids are more expensive but you get two pairs of binos in one.

 

lets break this down : Swarovski SLC 10x50 binos =$1799. Swarovski 15x56 binos = $1999 add that up and you get $3800 ( NOT CHEAP)

 

Then you get the Leica duovids which are 10 and 15 or 8 and 12 power all in one,that are just as good (better) than the swaros for a whopping $2645 ( all prices from bearbasin.com) now, according to my calculations that is a savings of $1200... hmmm makes sense to me but then again.....

 

 

Casey the reason leica had to make their binos 2 in 1 is because it takes at least 2 pairs of Leicas to equal one pair of Swaros!....

[bobbyo]

I think the main reason Swarvos out sell leicas and zeiss on the 15x size glass is the lack of a decent tripod adapter. Those companies are retarded for not coming up with a decent light weight streamlined adapter. They are probably losing millions of dollars.

 

Pedro, As for specific answers to your questions on CA, Color saturation, depth of view and focus point questions you would probably be better served going to a bird watching site. On this site, as you can probably tell, we don't like over intellectualizing our optics. "Swarvo good, Leica suck." "Leica good Swarvo Suck." " Pay $1300! more for Swarvos you won't be sorry." "Pay the extra $1500! for the Leicas, sure you will have to carry an Okie rigged contraption to attach it to a tripod, BUT YOU WON"T BE SORRY."

 

Nope Pedro, No one here is going to say the Swarvos are worth the extra money due to their superior resolution to the edges, their exquisite depth of field (the ability to view objects in space from foreground to background without having to adjust the focus) or Swarvo's ability to generate an image that has remarkable contrast and color accuracy with a high twilight factor. That crap is for the birders. Of coarse no birder is going to tell you the best loads for shooting a Coues or how to sight in your rifle. That is our forte'.

BOB

 

ps I don't know anything about the Minox, but if weight and size are not a factor for you I would suggest checking out the fujinon 16x70 they are about $600. The image quality is just as good as Swarvos and are far brighter on cloudy days. Yes, I just said that. Please don't ex-communicate me CouesWhitetail nation.

[azryan]

In my mind, you are leaving out the "top dog"of binos. The Leica Duovids. They have the best glass of all, and in my mind ( in my side by side comparison to Swaros) they are clearer.

 

Now, the 10+15x50 are not as big around as the Swaros but in the side by side comparison I came to the conclusion that there isnot enoungh difference in brightness to change anything in a HUNTING situation!

 

Dont waste your money with the duovids. There is a reason why Swarovski sells a lot more, they are better.

I guess Bass Pro got rid of their Leica selection, the optics guy informed me of this his exact words " they do not sell enough". They are more expensive then Swarovski, but "clearly" are not as good. I love the feud between Swarovski and Leica they are both good but Swarovski still wins out.

 

 

Your right, i doubt Leica sells as much as Swarovski does. Most people pay for the name when it comes to Swaros. Leica has to be doing something right since they have been around for ever ( Leitz before they were Leica)

 

The duovids are more expensive but you get two pairs of binos in one.

 

lets break this down : Swarovski SLC 10x50 binos =$1799. Swarovski 15x56 binos = $1999 add that up and you get $3800 ( NOT CHEAP)

 

Then you get the Leica duovids which are 10 and 15 or 8 and 12 power all in one,that are just as good (better) than the swaros for a whopping $2645 ( all prices from bearbasin.com) now, according to my calculations that is a savings of $1200... hmmm makes sense to me but then again.....

 

 

...Genius!!!...with comments like this...no wonder why Reese keeps you around, who would have figured.

 

Dont waste your money on them Lee-ca's, I would buy the minox's before leeca's.

Warranty-wise if you send back your Leica, dont expect them to send back for another 5 months. Too many people telling me horror stories about their customer service, if you could call it that

 

 

Also keep in mind the new Vortex 15's

[firstcoueswas80]

 

 

...Genius!!!...with comments like this...no wonder why Reese keeps you around, who would have figured.

 

Dont waste your money on them Lee-ca's, I would buy the minox's before leeca's.

Warranty-wise if you send back your Leica, dont expect them to send back for another 5 months. Too many people telling me horror stories about their customer service, if you could call it that

 

 

Also keep in mind the new Vortex 15's

 

 

Hey, it aint my fault I can do math and logical reasoning... thats what you get when you attend college, even if it is NAU lol!

 

 

Have you ever looked through the Vortex azryan? I have only looked at em one time, at Ruffs in flagstaff and I must tell you, i was VERY disapointed! They didnt fit my eyes well, and were not nearly as clear as people say they are. I have never heard a horror story about Leicas warranty, only praises. Maybe we both have biased ears.

 

 

Bobbyo, I think you are dead nuts on with the tripod adapter analysis! However, there are some good ones out there. Jim White makes a very simple one that I use that is as simple as it gets. Outdoorsmans makes on also, I will be switching to this one shortly just because with it on you can actually clamp down your binos and not worry about them falling "off" the tripod like with the JW.

 

 

Ps Hc, I dont think he meant anything by the english comment, think it was more toungue in cheek humor

[Diamondbackaz]

In my mind, you are leaving out the "top dog"of binos. The Leica Duovids. They have the best glass of all, and in my mind ( in my side by side comparison to Swaros) they are clearer.

 

Now, the 10+15x50 are not as big around as the Swaros but in the side by side comparison I came to the conclusion that there isnot enoungh difference in brightness to change anything in a HUNTING situation!

 

Dont waste your money with the duovids. There is a reason why Swarovski sells a lot more, they are better.

I guess Bass Pro got rid of their Leica selection, the optics guy informed me of this his exact words " they do not sell enough". They are more expensive then Swarovski, but "clearly" are not as good. I love the feud between Swarovski and Leica they are both good but Swarovski still wins out.

 

 

Your right, i doubt Leica sells as much as Swarovski does. Most people pay for the name when it comes to Swaros. Leica has to be doing something right since they have been around for ever ( Leitz before they were Leica)

 

The duovids are more expensive but you get two pairs of binos in one.

 

 

 

 

lets break this down : Swarovski SLC 10x50 binos =$1799. Swarovski 15x56 binos = $1999 add that up and you get $3800 ( NOT CHEAP)

 

Then you get the Leica duovids which are 10 and 15 or 8 and 12 power all in one,that are just as good (better) than the swaros for a whopping $2645 ( all prices from bearbasin.com) now, according to my calculations that is a savings of $1200... hmmm makes sense to me but then again.....

 

 

I compared the Leica 10-15 to the swaro 15's and ended up getting the swaros. Bobyo is correct about the tripod adaptors, Swaro makes an excellent tripod adaptor.

[DesertBull]

You can go to the Outdoorman's in Cave Creek and try them all out side by side.

[devinv]

not much being said about the classic zeiss. i have the 15's and love them. i haven't used the swarovskis or the leicas but the swarovskis feel fragile in my hands with the plastic. i like the classic zeiss because of the rubber armor on them. the 15s are a lot to lug around, but you can pick them up for about $1000 and they are awesome.

[bobbyo]

not much being said about the classic zeiss. i have the 15's and love them. i haven't used the swarovskis or the leicas but the swarovskis feel fragile in my hands with the plastic. i like the classic zeiss because of the rubber armor on them. the 15s are a lot to lug around, but you can pick them up for about $1000 and they are awesome.

 

Hey Devin your name came up in another thread about that tempermental rifle you have. http://forums.coueswhitetail.com/forums/in...?showtopic=8154. We were wondering what happened. Also a belated congratulations on your November whitetail. I somehow missed it.

Bob

[Coues Sniper]

Pedro, based on your name, i am going to guess that you speak spanish, if i am in correct, please excuse me.

 

 

 

Leicas son las mejores del mundo. los swarovskis estan bueno, pero, no son Leicas.

 

 

cuando azryan hablan, no oidas! el es un nino muy joven quien no sabe nada!

 

Gamehauler es muy veijo, y el no sabe nada! pero longshooter,old timer y yo, nos estamos muy MUY intelligeinte!

 

yo veo muchas mas vendados con mis leicas de azryan y gamehauler han con los swarovskis!

 

si quiere comprar lo mejor, compra las lecias pronto!

 

 

LMAO Casey! You called Longshooter smart! Hahahahaha if you only knew!!!

 

And shame on you for using your mediocre spanish to tell this guy that the overpriced Leicas are better! Leicas are very good glass, but they are not as good as the Swarovski's. And they certainly do not have near as good of a warranty or customer service. I really don't think you can argue that one. I have scratched my Swaro 15's twice (my fault both times - the tripod fell over) and didn't have to pay a dime to have the lenses replaced either time. They even next day aired them to me for nothing, and offerered to send a loaner pair to me when a part wasn't in stock. Definitely something to consider as well.

 

Pedro welcome to the site. We are having some fun here, but the bottom line is, you really can't go wrong with either the Leicas or the Swarovski's. Zeiss should probably be mentioned in the same breath as well. If you get a chance, i strongly suggest checking them out side by side and seeing for yourself. There are even some companies that will rent binoculars to you so you can take them out into the field and compare. If you can't, i would say go with the Swarovski's. I gaurantee you will not be dissappointed. Good luck in your purchase, and again - welcome to the site. You can learn alot from these knuckleheads. (most of them)

[firstcoueswas80]

Come on now Kevin... I have already broken down the price... But I guess it does take the more intelligent Leica owners to see the logic behind the $1300 savings that you get when you buy the Duovids over the Swaros.

 

 

When I comepared the Leicas and Swaros side by side, I 100% chose the Leicas over Swaros for clarity and edge to edge clarity.

 

 

And us Leica owners are not dumb enough to let our tripods fall over, so we dont need the warranty.

 

 

PS, my Spanish is more than mediocore, it got me a 84% on the Border Patrol test

[longshooter]

LMAO Casey! You called Longshooter smart! Hahahahaha if you only knew!!!

 

 

Very funny coues sniper. If my memory is correct you were all over my Leicas like a fat chick on a donut when we were elk hunting.

 

And don't forget I got proof that your not the sharpest broad head in the quiver. I have a pic that proves it. Lets see, you shoot a gaurdian, have a euro of a eastern whitetail and your hairstyle tells it all. clueless and gay. You probaly can have a coues bed down in your hair and not even know it.

[Coues Sniper]

Uh oh, looks like the Goof Troop is ganging up on me... First off, longshooter, I did say i liked your Leicas but that was more so as not to hurt your feelings about them. I know how fragile you are. I actually did like the built in rangefinder as opposed to having an extra piece of equipment - but that would be the only reason to buy them And I'll put my Guardian against your soon to be 48 lb Hoyt whenever you're ready. Loose that training wheel whisker biscuit before you come up though And also, my hair is just plain awesome.

 

Casey, I'm sorry you just can't see the light (literally) with the Swaro's. But the fact you're on the same side as Shortshooter on this one really speaks for itself! They outsell the Leicas for a reason!!!

 

PS congrats on the test

[Red Rabbit]

Here's a review of some 15X binos

http://24hourcampfire.com/big_eyes.html

 

The best is to compare them all at once, put them on tripods, look at a resolution chart and distant objects at dusk, and let your eyes decide. You may find that the Swaros and Leicas are not worth 3X the cost of the Minox (doug has em for $700) and you wish to take the extra $1300 and go on a hunt.

 

RR

[hunter4life]

I have only looked through the Minox on one occassion and I was not very impressed. Sorry I can't give you more info, but like someone else said a birdwatching forum would probably be a better place to get the specifics that you asked for.

 

As for the Leica vs. Swarovski debate, they are both excellent and I don't think anyone can make a strong argument for one being superior to the other. I think that Swarovski has had better marketing and sells more due to that reason. I have heard that Swarovski gives a big discount to guides on one item per year and thus they have gained a loyal group of supporters that are exposed to a lot of hunters that are potential customers. I have the leica trinovid 8x42's and have yet to look through an 8 or 10 power swarovski binocular that I thought was any better.

[fatfootdoc]

I hunted with the fujinon 15x 60 hb for a few years and upgraded to swaro 15x 56 this year, I would never go back to anything other than the swarovski's . I tried the Leicas but they didnt fit my head well and it took me forever to focus them . plus the warranty is crappy with leica. I decided that leica must mean Lucky in germany or wherever they are made, Lucky to see anything!! ag