Florida and Governor Rick Scott

[CatfishKev]

"Shall not be infringed"

 

So like 8 year olds should be able to buy guns?

[CatfishKev]

This one's gonna go the distance, I can just feel it.

[Snapshot]

An 18 year old can join the military, and be taught how to kill, but they can't buy a rifle until 21.

 

Anybody in politics see the irony in this?

[Swivelhead]

 

"Shall not be infringed"

So like 8 year olds should be able to buy guns?

 

Eight may be a little young, bought a model 700 .270 win. when I was 12. Washed dishes in a restaraunt all summer to fund the purchase.

 

 

 

[muledeerarea33?]

 

"Shall not be infringed"

 

So like 8 year olds should be able to buy guns?

I was camping 1/2 mile from the house and carrying a shot gun at 8. First .22 at 5 (I still have it) hunting birds alone at 10. So is it age that determines gun ownership or is it proper up bringing?

[CatfishKev]

 

 

"Shall not be infringed"

So like 8 year olds should be able to buy guns?

I was camping 1/2 mile from the house and carrying a shot gun at 8. First .22 at 5 (I still have it) hunting birds alone at 10. So is it age that determines gun ownership or is it proper up bringing?

But did you buy it? NO. Some adult figured you were competent enough to do so right? When me and my wife leave the house I leave a loaded 380 or 9 with my son with instructions for a worse case scenario. I determined I trust him in this situation. When I'm home it's back in my control. Do I think he should be able to go out and buy one now? Heck no. But at 18 I'm fine with it with some sort of screening. I think you guys are misunderstanding coach's point. It's not about the age as much as making sure the person is competent.

[BeardownAZ]

 

I shouldn't be so surprised of all the Fudds on here willing to sellout.

How are me and Trphyhntr the only ones seeing all this as bullcrap?!?!

Quit capitulating and stand with some backbone and realize our rights are on the line.

Don't lump us all into the same category. I am 100% against the law. It could start a trend among other states.

If an 18 year old can vote, as well as fight and die for this country, they deserve the right to purchase firearms.

These sellout politicians always enact

"feel good" laws to appease the sheep.

I'm not saying literally everyone on this site is a Fudd, I was referring to the ones who think like Coach and are ok with government dictating to them what they can and can't do.

[BeardownAZ]

 

 

 

"Shall not be infringed"

So like 8 year olds should be able to buy guns?

I was camping 1/2 mile from the house and carrying a shot gun at 8. First .22 at 5 (I still have it) hunting birds alone at 10. So is it age that determines gun ownership or is it proper up bringing?

But did you buy it? NO. Some adult figured you were competent enough to do so right? When me and my wife leave the house I leave a loaded 380 or 9 with my son with instructions for a worse case scenario. I determined I trust him in this situation. When I'm home it's back in my control. Do I think he should be able to go out and buy one now? Heck no. But at 18 I'm fine with it with some sort of screening. I think you guys are misunderstanding coach's point. It's not about the age as much as making sure the person is competent.

And who determines the competency? A two bit politician or some agency with a political axe to grind??

[Delw]

 

I shouldn't be so surprised of all the Fudds on here willing to sellout.

 

How are me and Trphyhntr the only ones seeing all this as bullcrap?!?!

 

Quit capitulating and stand with some backbone and realize our rights are on the line.

Appeasing the gun control crowd with this and the bumpstocks. Like theyll stop now and won't go for the next piece of low hanging fruit. What happens when 21 isn't old enough?

 

I'm not surprised by coachs and some other peoples answers.

 

This is what the non political correct call pu$$ifying America.

 

JUST WOW

[MT_Sourdough]

When I turned 21, I was already working as a correctional officer.

Another note, I never obeyed drinking age, but that was not uncommon across rural Montana, back then. I started drinking in bars at age 13. But then again, I was working 7 days a week from sun up to sun down on a big ranch over 100 miles from our ranch. I'd work from mid-June to right before the start of the new school year. When we finished supper, we'd hop in the back of the truck and ride into the big metro of Jackson Montana to drink at the bar. Heck, sometimes Hank Williams Jr would be sitting over agianst the wall at his little table. I guess these are different times.

[BeardownAZ]

[Delw]

 

 

 

 

"Shall not be infringed"

So like 8 year olds should be able to buy guns?

I was camping 1/2 mile from the house and carrying a shot gun at 8. First .22 at 5 (I still have it) hunting birds alone at 10. So is it age that determines gun ownership or is it proper up bringing?

But did you buy it? NO. Some adult figured you were competent enough to do so right? When me and my wife leave the house I leave a loaded 380 or 9 with my son with instructions for a worse case scenario. I determined I trust him in this situation. When I'm home it's back in my control. Do I think he should be able to go out and buy one now? Heck no. But at 18 I'm fine with it with some sort of screening. I think you guys are misunderstanding coach's point. It's not about the age as much as making sure the person is competent.

And who determines the competency? A two bit politician or some agency with a political axe to grind??

 

sounds like coach and catfish already determined under 21's competency except for there own kids of-course

[Coach]

My only issue with the 21 law is what about every military member serving in Florida that is under 21? They can serve our country and protect us with firearms but they can't buy one.

The absolute last person in the world I would want to infringe on is our men and women in the military. I talked a little about exemptions for those with parental backing and the training to be competent. I hope it goes beyond saying, that any member of the armed forces far exceed that. What I'm talking about are these deranged young men raised with no father, already have a history of dangerous behavior.

 

To BeardownAZ, I really get where you are coming from. I've fought this fight for thirty years now. I understand that it feels like giving an inch will be a mile down the road. And you are right - it will if not done right. On the other hand, being the ones who proposed the inch, when it makes sense, creates future political clout that can't be achieved by just fighting everything.

 

I think about Lewis and Clark, and their small team, pulling that giant boat up river into uncharted country. They suffered very few losses. Part of that was mile by mile making friends along the way rather than enemies. I know, a little off tangent, but the point I'm coming back around to is, like it or not, we're going to have to bend. We can choose how we bend, even propose it, if we're smart.

 

If we choose not to bend, we'll get into areas we didn't want to go. Upping the age to buy a rifle without parental consent is a very small bend, IMO, and one we can say WE proposed.

 

That creates political leverage down the road. The kind that makes anti-gunners lose their power and momentum, because they didn't propose it or make it happen. Just try and look at it from a perspective other than your own, and I hope you'll see what I"m getting at.

[Delw]

 

My only issue with the 21 law is what about every military member serving in Florida that is under 21? They can serve our country and protect us with firearms but they can't buy one.

The absolute last person in the world I would want to infringe on is our men and women in the military. I talked a little about exemptions for those with parental backing and the training to be competent. I hope it goes beyond saying, that any member of the armed forces far exceed that. What I'm talking about are these deranged young men raised with no father, already have a history of dangerous behavior.

 

To BeardownAZ, I really get where you are coming from. I've fought this fight for thirty years now. I understand that it feels like giving an inch will be a mile down the road. And you are right - it will if not done right. On the other hand, being the ones who proposed the inch, when it makes sense, creates future political clout that can't be achieved by just fighting everything.

 

I think about Lewis and Clark, and their small team, pulling that giant boat up river into uncharted country. They suffered very few losses. Part of that was mile by mile making friends along the way rather than enemies. I know, a little off tangent, but the point I'm coming back around to is, like it or not, we're going to have to bend. We can choose how we bend, even propose it, if we're smart.

 

If we choose not to bend, we'll get into areas we didn't want to go. Upping the age to buy a rifle without parental consent is a very small bend, IMO, and one we can say WE proposed.

 

That creates political leverage down the road. The kind that makes anti-gunners lose their power and momentum, because they didn't propose it or make it happen. Just try and look at it from a perspective other than your own, and I hope you'll see what I"m getting at.

 

its either NO or YES, not a maybe for this or that.

you apparently decided NO but you want too look cool/ fell good about yourself and give exemptions... typical liberal attitude sounding more like a women everyday.

in the old days we called this NO BALLS.

[dse]

 

My only issue with the 21 law is what about every military member serving in Florida that is under 21? They can serve our country and protect us with firearms but they can't buy one.

 

The absolute last person in the world I would want to infringe on is our men and women in the military. I talked a little about exemptions for those with parental backing and the training to be competent. I hope it goes beyond saying, that any member of the armed forces far exceed that. What I'm talking about are these deranged young men raised with no father, already have a history of dangerous behavior.

 

To BeardownAZ, I really get where you are coming from. I've fought this fight for thirty years now. I understand that it feels like giving an inch will be a mile down the road. And you are right - it will if not done right. On the other hand, being the ones who proposed the inch, when it makes sense, creates future political clout that can't be achieved by just fighting everything.

 

I think about Lewis and Clark, and their small team, pulling that giant boat up river into uncharted country. They suffered very few losses. Part of that was mile by mile making friends along the way rather than enemies. I know, a little off tangent, but the point I'm coming back around to is, like it or not, we're going to have to bend. We can choose how we bend, even propose it, if we're smart.

 

If we choose not to bend, we'll get into areas we didn't want to go. Upping the age to buy a rifle without parental consent is a very small bend, IMO, and one we can say WE proposed.

 

That creates political leverage down the road. The kind that makes anti-gunners lose their power and momentum, because they didn't propose it or make it happen. Just try and look at it from a perspective other than your own, and I hope you'll see what I"m getting at.

 

 

You see looking at everyone in the country between the ages of 18 & 21 as guilty till proven innocent, a small bend? It's pissin on every thing this country is supposed to be!

Other than the Florida shooting what other mass shooting was done by someone under 21 that purchased their own weapon anyway? I really can't remember any.

 

The kid that did this had a lot of problems with the law, he made threats on social media. All that and he was able to pass a background check. We don't need more laws punishing the innocent! We need accountability for the ones failing to enforce the laws we have!