sczoner Report post Posted October 18, 2004 Time to upgrade my son's bow and am curious what you all think. We've spent the last year shooting a $19 walmart special just focusing on proper form and building the muscles to draw a heavier bow. He has no trouble pulling a 10 lb draw and I'd like to get him working to heavier poundage. I'd also like to get him shooting a "real" compound with a sight. All of the men he shoots around have compounds with sights so that is his desire. Any suggestions? Second question I need a new bow. Been out of bowhunting for awhile and I'm ready to dive back into it. Cost isn't really an issue, but I don't want to spend for no reason. GOing to spend some time over the next couple weeks shooting various bows, but would like some suggestions on where to start. Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treestandman1 Report post Posted October 18, 2004 My personal preference goes to Mathews and Hoyt. Try them out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bowsniper Report post Posted October 19, 2004 How old is your son? I spent a few weeks researching kids compound bows, and put all the data in to an excel spread sheet. I'd be happy to send it to you (or anyone else) if you like, just email me at: mark.lucas@honeywell.com If you son is close to pulling 20lbs, the one I chose for my son and will be buying in the next few weeks is the Browning (PSE) Micro Midas 3. It's adjustable from 20 to 40 lbs., and 18 to 28'" draw length. The bow, rest, sight, quiver, and arrows goes for about $220. Hope that this helps! Mark Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sczoner Report post Posted October 20, 2004 bowsniper, Sent you an email. I'm always willing to use someone else's info. Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m1280 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 hey sczoner, I would agree w/ the micro midas 3. my son got his when he was almost 9 and started him @ 25, hes almost 10 and now pullin 38. good idea about form, maintain that thought process. keep this in mind, it worked ,and is, working w/ my son. short frequent shoots, getting comfortable w/ ranges and goin from pin to pin, the reason in my oppinion is, that about the time hes gettin comfortable w/ say, 20 or 25# your gonna be tweekin that weight as his muscles grow and they respond faster than i thought they would. but of course as you build that weight pull, there goes his consistecy at a given range. and at least w/ my son that frustrated him. he was gettin dialed in from 10-25 yds. and doin some indoor 3-d shoots w/ me, then i would change him up. what kept his intrest was keepin our shoots short and fun. we live in tucson and last w/e we went to the outdoor range at pse and i can say this, its all is payin off, and for never shootin beyond 25 yds he really surprised me on the 35 yrd. target. good luck hope this helps Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sczoner Report post Posted October 21, 2004 Bowsniper, Got the email. Thanks. M1280, Thanks for the advice. That has been my though process. Shoot often, but not too long. Keeps him happy and my patience in line Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
recurveman Report post Posted October 22, 2004 I vote for a recurve!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I actually started out with a compound. But if you really want to get a kid started shooting a great way to do it is through JOAD. It is a kids only league. I'm not sure where they are at now days but it is great fun for the kids. I believe they can use compounds or recurves. But the kids really seem to take off when they get around other kids. Check it out if you get a chance. It is well worth the time. Later, recurveman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gnoto Report post Posted October 27, 2004 I ahve had the opportunity to shoot them all. Grew up witha uncle who ownes an archery business. I woudl say before the Solo Cam by mathews Hoyt was the way to go. There is nothing close to the Matthews. Not in size weight, accuracy, dependability. Your son will have the best he can use and never want to put it down. Practice is the key to a sucessful bow hunt. Practice with a Matthews for a day and then a Hoyt for a day. You will concur Matthews No matter what you buy if you buy a compound save the money and buy a Matthews. Anything else is second class. Not to mention you can resellit for more then most hoyts cost new. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m1280 Report post Posted October 28, 2004 gnoto, I new there was a reason I liked you, i have the legacy and would agree!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firstcoueswas80 Report post Posted October 28, 2004 Does anyone in here know the name Terry or Michelle Ragsdale?? they both were world champion archers and worked at the PSE in Tucson, i grew up with their son and daughter and when my dad and i were looking for a compound for me, we went to Terry and he set me up with a PSE nova, nothing wrong with that bow, for the time it was it was a good bow, no cams or anything so it is ouf of date now and heck, i probabaly havent shot it in 2-3 years!!! i did carry it on a Javelina hunt, but once i saw how many illegals there was in the area, i realzed that if i was gonna get a shot at a pig, i was gonna use my rifle and make it count!! we ended up not seeing a single pig that hunt!!! it sucked, did see a group of 87 illegals( we counted) and 1 90+ coues buck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sczoner Report post Posted October 29, 2004 Well, Thansk for all the input. I went and bought myself a new bow at Archery HQ. Shot Matthew, Hoyt, PSE and Kodiak Outdoors. Settled on the KO36. Lightest of the bunch and at least as smooth and queit in my mind. Plus the corp office is in Tempe. 20yd pin is set and now it's time to get out to the range and set the rest. I'll be getting my boy the micromidas for christmas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bowsniper Report post Posted October 29, 2004 Good choices! How come you get your bow now and you boy has to wait until Christmas? I just got my son his micro midas last week and I can't pry him loose of it. Have fun! Mark Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sczoner Report post Posted October 30, 2004 Good question. If I had my way we'd both be shooting new bows. However, my better half sees things differently and his bow is his big Christmas present from Santa so he has to wait. I think he also gets a lesson in delayed gratification this way or some such thing. Sczoner Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arizonabowhunter Report post Posted November 8, 2004 firscoueswas80, I know of the Ragsdale's they use to shoot and work for PSE. I think they moved back east, apparently Michelle was chosen for the olympics compound division and wanted to practice back east I'm not sure where? That is all I know, but I use to attend 3-d shoots at Laquachi bow club off of Oracle rd. I was shooting right next to her and she can shoot, she is a shooting machine. Not to mention a very attractive lady. You might inquire for more information at PSE. Did you attend Flowing Wells High School? Reason being that is where Ragsdale's son attended apparently he was a pretty good baseball player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lowyder993s Report post Posted December 6, 2004 gnoto, I new there was a reason I liked you, i have the legacy and would agree!! I second that!!! Got a Legacy from Bull Basin in Flag during the elk season. Had to help my son w/ his sci project (arrow wts and KE). Had to shoot more than 100 shots...that thing shot right where I aimed!!! Can't wait for Jan 1...gonna let the air out of a java, then work on a buck Good luck w/ the KO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites