muley224 Report post Posted January 27, 2018 Just saw on the news that 60 head of Elk were rounded up East of Flagstaff and sent to West Virginia. Think it was 57 cows and 3 bulls. Whats your thoughts on this ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bonecollector777 Report post Posted January 27, 2018 I think its awesome. AZ got their elk herd in a similar way way back when from Wyoming. We have plenty of elk to go around so it's not gonna hurt anything. 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roosevelt Mark Report post Posted January 27, 2018 I'm just wondering who pays for it all? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattys281 Report post Posted January 27, 2018 I think it's very cool, especially for the people of West Virginia. Years ago I read that AZ G&F had made a deal to trade antelope to Utah for mule deer. At that point they were 'managing' the herd to make way for the rape of BLM lands that are now occupied by tract housing in Prescott Valley. Those antelope never had a chance against land developers and the all mighty dollar, so if we had to lose them at least we gained some deer out of the deal and the antelope helped the herds in Utah. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muley224 Report post Posted January 27, 2018 I'm sure that many of the cows are impregnated. Heard could possibly double this year. Just hope the 3 bulls survive for awhile. Think the bulls were 3 year olds. I hope that they will wait 5 years or more for a limited hunt. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DesertBull Report post Posted January 27, 2018 Ive heard those old strip mines back east offer some great hunting. Some of it even a little western style glassing type of hunts for whitetail and elk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flatlander Report post Posted January 27, 2018 West Virgina and RMEF paid for it. Not that it really matters. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muley224 Report post Posted January 27, 2018 Just hope they all survive the trip. Probably transported by rail. Dont know for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ready2hunt Report post Posted January 27, 2018 I think it is awesome. The more animals spread across the country the better. Agree on the survival rate. Seems like such a small # of bulls but i am not a biologist. More animals = more hunting opportunity down the road for others. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HuntHarder Report post Posted January 27, 2018 I'm just wondering who pays for it all? I am sure, if it really bothers you, you can google it and try and figure it out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Allforelk Report post Posted January 27, 2018 I think it is awesome. The more animals spread across the country the better. Agree on the survival rate. Seems like such a small # of bulls but i am not a biologist. More animals = more hunting opportunity down the road for others. I wonder if the bull/cow ratio has something to do with an attempt to promote genetic diversity within the herd. Younger bulls pushed into a crowd with the gamble on the recruitment of the impregnated cows. The numbers make sense in my head, but I honestly know jack squat on the science and methodology behind it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted January 27, 2018 West Virgina and RMEF paid for it. Not that it really matters. why doesnt it matter 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trophyseeker Report post Posted January 27, 2018 Direct from AGFD today: FLAGSTAFF, Ariz. — In late February, dozens of elk from Arizona will be establishing a permanent change of residency more than 2,000 miles away. The healthy, strapping animals were captured earlier this week through a partnership between the Arizona Game and Fish Department and the West Virginia Division of Natural Resources. The Arizona Game and Fish Commission approved the capture and transport as part of West Virginia’s ongoing restoration project at its August meeting. “We’re pleased to assist the West Virginia Division of Natural Resources in its efforts to restore elk to their native range,” said Jim Ammons, commission chairman. “Helping restore wildlife populations is in keeping with the vision of the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation, using science-based principles to manage wildlife in the public trust.” The roughly 50 cows and 10 bulls, captured east of Flagstaff, will be quarantined for a minimum of 33 days before being loaded on livestock trailers and transported to the 24,245-acre Tomblin Wildlife Management Area in southwest West Virginia, where they will join nearly two dozen elk received in 2016 from Kentucky. The elk were captured from a robust population in the northern portion of Game Management Unit (GMU) 5B, which is designated as part of the Winter-Range Elk Management Zone. The department’s recent population surveys and modeling indicate an increasing trend in elk numbers within the capture area. The removal of the elk contributes to maintaining a stable population and will not change the number of hunt permit-tags available to hunters in this area. The project was an immense undertaking involving staff and volunteers from both state wildlife agencies, representatives from the Arizona Elk Society and the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation (RMEF), and capture crew from Quicksilver Air Inc. The department also coordinated with three major private landowners and the Hopi Tribe in advance of the capture. West Virginia’s agency, in cooperation with RMEF, covered the costs associated with the capturing and processing of the elk. All costs incurred were paid for with wildlife restoration funds, which are generated by sportsmen who support conservation through their purchase of hunting, fishing and other outdoor equipment, or by donations to RMEF. From first light until late afternoon, the capture process was repeated several times over the course of two days. A fixed-wing aircraft and three teams of spotters with binoculars would locate groups of elk -- preferably within a five-mile radius of the staging area at Raymond Wildlife Area – and provide coordinates to the helicopter capture crew. After a short pursuit, a hand-held net gun would be fired to entangle the desired elk, then two crew members (or “muggers”) would step off the helicopter, blindfold the elk and administer a mild sedative to keep it calm, immobilize it with hobbles to facilitate handling and transport, and remove the net. “We minimize chase time so that the helicopter is only pursuing animals for three to five minutes,” said Amber Munig, the department’s big game management supervisor. “If they start to exceed that, they pull off and let those animals go so we’re not stressing them out too much.” Once secured in a transport bag, the elk would be flown from a sling below the helicopter to the staging area, where several wildlife managers, biologists, veterinarians and others would evaluate the health of the animal, administer antibiotics and attach an identification tag and GPS tracking collar. The crew then would remove the blindfold and hobbles – and stand back and watch the elk bound into a holding pen with other quarantined animals. This week’s historic conservation project marks only the second time Arizona has provided elk to another state. In 2000, Kentucky’s elk restoration project received a boost with 26 animals that were captured near Raymond Wildlife Area. At the time, Kentucky hoped to build a statewide herd of between 7,200 and 8,200 elk. Today, officials estimate there are between 10,000 and 15,000 elk in the Blue Grass State. “One of the reasons we chose Arizona is because it’s one of the few states that has never had a documented case of Chronic Wasting Disease (a neurodegenerative wildlife disease that is fatal to deer and elk), said Stephen McDaniel, director of the West Virginia Division of Natural Resources. While West Virginia’s long-term plans include offering managed hunts, McDaniel added: “The thing we’re most excited about is elk-viewing opportunities.” Arizona benefitted from the same kind of out-of-state generosity back in February 1913. In an effort to restablish an elk population, sportsmen released 83 elk from Yellowstone National Park into Cabin Draw near Chevelon Creek in GMU 4A, just east of where this week’s capture took place. Two other transplants of elk from Yellowstone – one south of Alpine and another north of Williams – were considered successes, as Arizona’s elk population today numbers about 45,000 post-hunt adults. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muley224 Report post Posted January 27, 2018 Thanks. That pretty much sums it up for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cosninocanines Report post Posted January 28, 2018 Check out youtube Arizona elk capture pretty cool. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites