Adicted Report post Posted January 16, 2018 That place is crazy..I decided to take my rzr 1000 and do a complete loop around the white tanks from olive all the way around back to olive all dirt. I hit Miller out there and there was probably over 100 people. From teens shooting full auto's to old lady's. You would see people setting up cans in from of them and people shooting next to them 50 yds away. Absolutely crazy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azshtr Report post Posted January 16, 2018 All this talk of Joe Foss brings back fond memories of a photoshoot I did of him years ago. Super nice guy and so interesting to talk with. Ranks up there with my shoot with Barry Goldwater. Is that the Joe Foss who few F4F's at Wake Island in WWII? Yes, he was a fighter ace 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azshtr Report post Posted January 16, 2018 So sorry to hear of this needless death. She was pregnant as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRDATR Report post Posted January 16, 2018 All this talk of Joe Foss brings back fond memories of a photoshoot I did of him years ago. Super nice guy and so interesting to talk with. Ranks up there with my shoot with Barry Goldwater. Is that the Joe Foss who few F4F's at Wake Island in WWII? Yes, he was a fighter ace "Ace of Aces". Long list of accomplishments, Governor, NRA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZ8 Report post Posted January 16, 2018 Why I avoid places like this. With hundreds of shooters, it will be almost impossible to know who fired the fateful shot. If the bullet remained in her, about all they can know is the caliber. Then make a call out to the public that if you were out there shooting with that caliber around that time give us a call. Doubt anyone will speak up. Sad deal all around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Non-Typical Solutions Report post Posted January 16, 2018 Been watching too much Longmire......what if it wasn't accidental??? Pretty sad that no common sense is levied in this situation.....I mean if there truly are that any people out there shooting, why pull up and add more to the mess??? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saguaro Report post Posted January 16, 2018 Non-Typical, I was wondering the same thing as soon as I heard it on the news, about it being an accident or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chico Report post Posted January 16, 2018 Crazy is the LEO doing live interview on the local news and you hear a bullet whiz by--ricochet !!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rossislider Report post Posted January 16, 2018 I go out to the Rio Salado Sportsman's Club more and more for these reasons. I don't particularly enjoy paying the range fees, the wait times during and between rounds can be a pain, and the range masters can be a little intense. But it beats the alternatives of driving at least an hour outside of the valley or dealing with all of the idiots who have no common sense, respect for other shooters, and the outdoors where they leave all of their crap behind when they are done. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
My Rights As An American Report post Posted January 17, 2018 I go out to the Rio Salado Sportsman's Club more and more for these reasons. I don't particularly enjoy paying the range fees, the wait times during and between rounds can be a pain, and the range masters can be a little intense. But it beats the alternatives of driving at least an hour outside of the valley or dealing with all of the idiots who have no common sense, respect for other shooters, and the outdoors where they leave all of their crap behind when they are done. For this exact reason I took my daughter to the range on Monday after striking out Sunday at Four Peaks where it was INSANE busy! Too dangerous so I took her to the range with the same issues you posted. I hate getting placed next to the one guy who just came straight from the store with his first ever gun purchase (matching ARs for his old lady and him) or the other guy, the one shooting the extremely large caliber and blowing me off the table every 10 seconds he lets one off. Hard to concentrate in that war zone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tac Report post Posted January 17, 2018 At least at Rio Salado and Ben Avery you have a range officer trying to save you from the guy who is dangerous. Range Rules help /try to keep all safe and still let us enjoys our right to keep and bear arms. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wish2hunt Report post Posted January 17, 2018 The Queen Valley area is just as bad. Its just a matter of time before something like this happens there. People shoot every direction possible out there its crazy. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rossislider Report post Posted January 17, 2018 At least at Rio Salado and Ben Avery you have a range officer trying to save you from the guy who is dangerous. Range Rules help /try to keep all safe and still let us enjoys our right to keep and bear arms. I will say this for the range officers at Rio Salado, they seem to have mellowed and become more friendly in recent years. In the past I always felt they were looking down on me giving me the evil eye and just waiting for an opportunity to pounce and humiliate me. The last couple of years they have been very friendly and conversational. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rossislider Report post Posted January 17, 2018 I go out to the Rio Salado Sportsman's Club more and more for these reasons. I don't particularly enjoy paying the range fees, the wait times during and between rounds can be a pain, and the range masters can be a little intense. But it beats the alternatives of driving at least an hour outside of the valley or dealing with all of the idiots who have no common sense, respect for other shooters, and the outdoors where they leave all of their crap behind when they are done. For this exact reason I took my daughter to the range on Monday after striking out Sunday at Four Peaks where it was INSANE busy! Too dangerous so I took her to the range with the same issues you posted. I hate getting placed next to the one guy who just came straight from the store with his first ever gun purchase (matching ARs for his old lady and him) or the other guy, the one shooting the extremely large caliber and blowing me off the table every 10 seconds he lets one off. Hard to concentrate in that war zone. Yeah, I am one of those guys shooting the 300 RUM with a brake. But I do try to give the guys next to me a heads up warning. Also, I very rarely shoot more than 3 rounds out of any one rifle (most of the others are much tamer) during any given shooting round. When I'm at the range I try to simulate normal hunting conditions. Any more than 3 rounds without a break and the barrel heats up to much to simulate a normal hunting cold barrel situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildwoody Report post Posted January 17, 2018 Pay the $50 year membership at the Jim Jones range in Payson, a little drive but much safer up here. us rednecks are friendly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites