RMEF petition

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If the initiative passes the only legislation that can be enacted by the legislature is something that furthers the purpose of the initiative.

 

"In 1998, by initiative, the Arizona Constitution was amended to declare that the Governor may not veto successful referenda and initiatives and that these may not be repealed or amended by the legislature unless the amendment furthers the purposes of the initiative or referendum and is approved by a ¾ vote in each chamber. (Ariz. Const. art IV, part 1, §1)".

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Conflicting measures or constitutional amendments. If two or more conflicting measures or amendments to the constitution shall be approved by the people at the same election, the measure or amendment receiving the greatest number of affirmative votes shall prevail in all particulars as to which there is conflict.

 

Reservation of legislative power. This section shall not be construed to deprive the legislature of the right to enact any measure except that the legislature shall not have the power to adopt any measure that supersedes, in whole or in part, any initiative measure approved by a majority of the votes cast thereon or any referendum measure decided by a majority of the votes cast thereon unless the superseding measure furthers the purposes of the initiative or referendum measure and at least three-fourths of the members of each house of the legislature, by a roll call of ayes and nays, vote to supersede such initiative or referendum measure.

[Edge]

Conflicting measures or constitutional amendments. If two or more conflicting measures or amendments to the constitution shall be approved by the people at the same election, the measure or amendment receiving the greatest number of affirmative votes shall prevail in all particulars as to which there is conflict.[/size]

 

Yeah, didn't I just write that minus all the leagaleeze?

 

There can be conflicting initiatives and they can be introduced by lawmakers.

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You have more confidence in the will of the Arizona voters than I do. Last I recall when we tried to do this through the Legislative Process by a Constitutional Right to Hunt and Fish the antis kicked our butts!

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Furthermore, if the strategy to prevail on this truly is by referendum or bill, we appear to be WAY behind the curve. They should have already been running it past the public and ready to drop a bill on Jan 1, the first day of the new legislative calendar. I have seen nothing of the sort but I am nowhere near as well connected as I used to be. If people are planning this and they don't have the YVRGC and other wildlife clubs on board yet, they/we are making tremendous tactical errors!

[Edge]

You have more confidence in the will of the Arizona voters than I do. Last I recall when we tried to do this through the Legislative Process by a Constitutional Right to Hunt and Fish the antis kicked our butts!

No but I am hopeful an opposing initiative could be crafted with such language that we can get more voters on board than just us hunters. Maybe a more scientific approach or common sense?

 

But you're right, we need to get out the vote. Miracles happen, I mean after all, wasn't Hillary supposed to be president?

[dsotm]

Dear dsotm,

Thank you for your email regarding the ballot initiative to ban mountain lion and bobcat hunting in Arizona. I agree with you and believe banning the hunting of mountain lions and/or bobcats would put other wildlife, as well as livestock, in danger. Therefore, I will not support or vote for any type of ban on hunting these animals.

Sincerely, Senator Nancy Barto

[Rag Horn]

Passing the buck. I refuse to believe that line. The governor has no participation in 🙄🤢. He may or may not participate but he could if he wanted to.

[Edge]

I sent an email to Rep Weninger's office yesterday asking if a state representative would be writing a counter ballot to the anti hunting initiative as provided by the AZ Constitution, art 21. Instead of a response from the Rep, I received the same response as above. What really chaps my hide is I didn't even address the governors office.

[MULEPACKHUNTER]

Ya I got emails from 3 different addresses with the same message.

[brian390]

Rag horn, I got the same email as you did sent back to me. I heard that the antis put an article in the republic paper. Is there any hunters on here that are good writers that would want to put an article in the paper?

[Edge]

Rag horn, I got the same email as you did sent back to me. I heard that the antis put an article in the republic paper. Is there any hunters on here that are good writers that would want to put an article in the paper?

We need a list of talking points. Everything from the failures of similar bans implemented in CA and British Columbia, to the harm the ban if approved would do to other species populations on the cats menu and public safety issues.

[brian390]

Obviously the arizona game and fish knows more about management than these anti idiots. It seems like we have to deal with idiots everywhere these days. Everyone that comes on this post make sure to get your petition sent in to the governor for what it's worth and it's easy to do.

[bojangles]

I got an email back saying the governor has no say in ballot initiatives and that he can't do a thing about it.

[Edge]

Legislatively-referred constitutional amendments.

 

Either chamber of the Arizona State Legislature is allowed to propose an amendment. A majority of members of both chambers must approve it; if they do, the proposed amendment goes on a statewide ballot for a popular vote of the people where if a simple majority approves it, it becomes part of the constitution.

 

I've tried to reach my Rep concerning such an amendment as provided by art. 21, AZ Constitution only to get a form reply concerning the Gov.

 

I'm no legal beagle but it appears to me our state Representatives are hiding while the governors office supplies cover.