.270 Report post Posted October 18, 2004 we got taulmaned, now dat's funny. i sent an email to the DBSS and a guy named mcasland answered. which sorta suprised me. most "societies" that i've been around don't seem to have time for stuff. anyway, he went to great lengths to explain what happened. said the azgfd's sollution was to eliminate all limits on bighorn permits and open it up like they did elk and deer north of the colorado. he felt that if they were allowed to do this that maybe as many as 50% of the sheep permits would go to nonresidents. i assume because of the hunter pools saturating the applications. there aren't a lot of folks that apply for sheep period. for whatever reason, not a whole bunch of residents even apply. so it wouldn't be hard for the nonresident to get the biggest piece o' the sheep pie. so all you guys need to apply for sheep every year. really. you get the money back. i've been doing it for about 30 years. it's easy. even if you don't have a clue what to do when you get a permit. i'm sure you can figger it out. they're sheep, for cryin' out loud. he didn't come right out and say it, but i derived from the email, that the DBSS had a lot to do with the 15% limit. he didn't explain why they set aside 15% just for nonresidents, instead of just a limit up to 15% and letting the luck of the draw decide on what the final number is each year. nobody seems to want to touch that. but the whole thing boiled down to the azgfd being afraid of uso. he didn't do anything like blame shroufe or the commissioners, like i like to. but it seemed pretty plain that's what he meant. anyway, i was impressed that he even answered my rant, and was more impressed that i ain't the only guy that feels that way. guess if a guy really gives a dern, he ought join the DBSS. think i will. looks like maybe they did do us some good. even if i didn't get an answer on guaranteeing nonresidents 15% of the permits. maybe he forgot to address it. that's the part that really gets my hump up. guaranteeing these guys 15% of the permits. and you know that uso clients will get the majority of those hunters. and then they will contract out to Az. resident guides. etc. i know that 15% of the permits is only a handfull of tags, but it sure gripes me to know that nonresidents are guaranteed a piece o' the pie every year. it's a sorry state of affairs. just remember this, vote for whoever runs against napalitano. she hasn't got to appoint any commission members yet, i don't think. but if she gets another term, they will all be her appointees by the time her 2nd term is up and they will all do her bidding. hunt hard dudes, and vote. Lark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites