trphyhntr Report post Posted September 9, 2017 Wouldn't burros and GCNP deer fall under federal charges and Not just game violations? And what takes 4 years to investigate? I don't think it's that easy to get game violations to stick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DesertBull Report post Posted September 9, 2017 Lets see what the punishment is. The sentencing comes AFTER a guilty verdict. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AzDiamondHeat Report post Posted September 9, 2017 i was just watching Ch 3 news and they had the storyYea me too. Now he's famous. You guys admit to watching ch 3??? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted September 9, 2017 i was just watching Ch 3 news and they had the storyYea me too. Now he's famous.You guys admit to watching ch 3??? Kylee Cruz on the morning show, would smash. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sneaker Report post Posted September 9, 2017 This joker is apparently still guiding as of yesterday? Posting pics today: https://www.instagram.com/macoutfitters/?hl=en Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elkhutnaz Report post Posted September 9, 2017 BIG THUMBS UP AZGFD, hope he ends up in jail and they never let him guide again.....wonder how many laws he broke with clients? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bonecollector777 Report post Posted September 9, 2017 This joker is apparently still guiding as of yesterday? Posting pics today: https://www.instagram.com/macoutfitters/?hl=enI think you guys don't get how this whole thing works. Until he's convicted he can guide, hunt, fish, trap or whatever he pleases. Once he's convicted then comes the punishment. It's not punishment and then conviction as much as most people want since they read about it online. He may be the worst poacher in the universe but geeze people don't hang the guy yet. For all we know everything is "suspected" and he could still get off even if he truly did it. And I'm talking in a general sense here not just this case. I've seen people already saying need to take everything he owns away and kick him to the streets, never let him set foot in the forest again etc. Why doesn't everyone just wait for the conviction and then argue what punishment you'd like the dish out. Before anyone says I'm defending him I'm not. He's a shady dude for sure. But let the process work how it's supposed to before we light our torches and grab the pitchforks. Gonna be some mighty disappointed people if this dude manages to sneak out of all this without any punishment. Crazier things have happened. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted September 9, 2017 Game violations are hard to convict, if he's even being brought up on these charges along with his history of other violations, he is as guilty as can be as far as I'm concerned. I've never seen or heard of his guide outfit I doubt he gets much business except from his poaching cohorts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest oneshot Report post Posted September 9, 2017 Hahaha... Yeah, I'm laughing at you Loren McReyolds, hope you suffer for your crimes... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Curtis Reed Report post Posted September 9, 2017 i was just watching Ch 3 news and they had the storyYea me too. Now he's famous.You guys admit to watching ch 3??? Only channel that has news earlier than 1700 hrs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bonecollector Report post Posted September 9, 2017 Saw he replied to a hunt_az post on IG. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5guyshunting Report post Posted September 9, 2017 i was just watching Ch 3 news and they had the storyYea me too. Now he's famous.You guys admit to watching ch 3??? Only channel that has news earlier than 1700 hrs Yes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elkaholic Report post Posted September 9, 2017 a lot of guides / outfiiters have been brought up on charges over the yrs. here in AZ - fines- revoked licenses means nothing to these people- chasing antelope- helicopter - he's back in business shooting elk illegal next to homes -- he's still in business I'm sure there are dozens more - Loren will not learn a lesson regardless of what charges / fines / etc. most will just do business behind the lines of legalities. catch me if u can -- most just change name of business - try to hide but never quit thumbing their nose at ethical hunting practices because they are the innocent 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted September 9, 2017 a lot of guides / outfiiters have been brought up on charges over the yrs. here in AZ - fines- revoked licenses means nothing to these people- chasing antelope- helicopter - he's back in business shooting elk illegal next to homes -- he's still in business I'm sure there are dozens more - Loren will not learn a lesson regardless of what charges / fines / etc. most will just do business behind the lines of legalities. catch me if u can -- most just change name of business - try to hide but never quit ti a lot of guides / outfiiters have been brought up on charges over the yrs. here in AZ - fines- revoked licenses means nothing to these people- chasing antelope- helicopter - he's back in business shooting elk illegal next to homes -- he's still in business I'm sure there are dozens more - Loren will not learn a lesson regardless of what charges / fines / etc. most will just do business behind the lines of legalities. catch me if u can -- most just change name of business - try to hide but never quit thumbing their nose at ethical hunting practices because they are the innocent some big names here but you wont see anyone talking shoot on their facebook pages like they will to this loren guy. sad. http://www.biggamehunt.net/news/11-sentenced-federal-wildlife-violations heck another guy is/was sponsored by hoyt with a big fat recent arizona game violation on his record Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flatlander Report post Posted September 9, 2017 Ooh, hadn't heard about Hatch and Stayner getting busted. That's gunna leave a mark for Hatch. But... I have seen guys really bash on all of the different guides. Everyone seems to have critics. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
