300 win mag load

[oz31p]

Not for me. Killed a fox 2years ago at1365

[lancetkenyon]

Depends on how fast you run them. 

I shoot the 215 and 230s in my .300RUM @ 3100+.  Have 1st round hits on coyotes out to 1365.  

[oz31p]

27 minutes ago, lancetkenyon said:

 

Im  Have 1st round hits on coyotes out to 1365.  

Copy cat !!!!lololol

[Delw]

My ruger #1 loves 180 grain ballistic tips and h4350 just under max.

had 2 rugers m77mkII serial number difference was  1.  Mine loved the 180s and was a tack driver, dads would only shoot the 150 and was a tack driver with those. my 180 loads in Dads ruger shot 1.5 or something like that groups at best.

pretty wild.

[rossislider]

17 hours ago, oz31p said:

The vdl’s were ok with good shot placement 

That shot placement argument is total BS and can be an excuse for underperforming bullets by people who haven't experienced a perfect shot go bad. I have shot many animals with VLDs, but can personally attest to their failure with perfect shot placement for me last year on a bull, and also a guy that I was helping this past season on a bull. My shot hit rib cage and exploded. The rib broke, but their was no penetration beyond. This was proven through my "field autopsy". Fortunately three additional rounds over the next 4 miles, all to the vitals, and I was able to bring him down. The guy I helped this year had a similar experience, but his bull was never recovered.

Maybe you have had success with them, so have I most of the time, but it has been shown by many people on many occasions that the current VLDs have a very thin jacket that is not holding up well on big boned animals.

[oz31p]

27 minutes ago, rossislider said:

That shot placement argument is total BS and can be an excuse for underperforming bullets by people who haven't experienced a perfect shot go bad. I have shot many animals with VLDs, but can personally attest to their failure with perfect shot placement for me last year on a bull, and also a guy that I was helping this past season on a bull. My shot hit rib cage and exploded. The rib broke, but their was no penetration beyond. This was proven through my "field autopsy". Fortunately three additional rounds over the next 4 miles, all to the vitals, and I was able to bring him down. The guy I helped this year had a similar experience, but his bull was never recovered.

Maybe you have had success with them, so have I most of the time, but it has been shown by many people on many occasions that the current VLDs have a very thin jacket that is not holding up well on big boned animals.

If I remember correctly the video of your bull showed a quartering away bull that was hit forward. Right?

[rossislider]

5 hours ago, oz31p said:

If I remember correctly the video of your bull showed a quartering away bull that was hit forward. Right?

No, as usual, you are very wrong. I often wonder what it must be like to armchair quarterback everything while clearly not knowing anything about what you are talking about. Do you even hunt? READ THE COMMENTS, I have said it several times now. I removed the hide which exposed the clean rib shot, right behind the front shoulder. The shoulder was not impacted. The bullet hit the rib and gernaded, as did the following 2 shots. I'll give you yet another anatomy lesson. Doubtful it will register this time any more than it did last time.

Note the shot location from the picture below, then see the elk anatomy pictures beneath. Shame on me for not taking pictures after caping the animal and examining the wounds. But I didn't expect to be having to explain it over and over to know it all keyboard jockeys. Back to back years with poor performance on good shot with Berger VLDs.

[oz31p]

1 minute ago, rossislider said:

No, as usual, you are very wrong. I often wonder what it must be like to armchair quarterback everything while clearly not knowing anything about what you are talking about. Do you even hunt? READ THE COMMENTS, I have said it several times now. I removed the hide which exposed the clean rib shot. The shoulder was not impacted. The bullet hit the rib and gernaded, as did the following 2 shots. I'll give you yet another anatomy lesson. Doubtful it will register this time any more than it did last time.

Note the shot location from the picture below, then see the elk anatomy pictures beneath. Shame on me for not taking pictures after caping the animal and examining the wounds. But I didn't expect to be having to explain it over and over to know it all keyboard jockeys.

Oh so I remember incorrectly. 
 

can you explain why I’m always wrong or always arm chair quarterbacking. I don’t think you and I have ever talked. Besides once at the Arizona deer association banquet about 5 years ago. 
 

yes I hunt.  I don’t post everything I do to the internet or hire guilds. 

[rossislider]

55 minutes ago, oz31p said:

Oh so I remember incorrectly. 
 

can you explain why I’m always wrong or always arm chair quarterbacking. I don’t think you and I have ever talked. Besides once at the Arizona deer association banquet about 5 years ago. 
 

yes I hunt.  I don’t post everything I do to the internet or hire guilds. 

No you just talk crap to and about other hunters and call them liars without first hand knowledge of the events. I have seen your posts and comments enough over the past several years to know the caliber of person you are. As for the left field irrelevant guide comment. You should give it a try. I hunt with family and friends, and on a few occasions, with a hired guides. I work hard and make a good enough living to allow me that occasional privilege, and have been fortunate to hunt with some of the best. You should give it a try. I didn't grow up hunting or come from a hunting family and can't express how much I learned from those guys. Some of my fondest hunting experiences and closest lifelong friendships have directly resulted. I wish everyone was fortunate enough to have the opportunity at least once. But I can see how it might be easier to just judge, criticize, and armchair quarterback.

[oz31p]

4 minutes ago, oz31p said:

Oh so I remember incorrectly. 
 

can you explain why I’m always wrong or always arm chair quarterbacking. I don’t think you and I have ever talked. Besides once at the Arizona deer association banquet about 5 years ago. 
 

yes I hunt.  I just don’t post everything I do to the internet or hire guilds. 

 

[oz31p]

Just now, rossislider said:

No you just talk crap to and about other hunters and call them liars without first hand knowledge of the events. I have seen your posts and comments enough over the past several years to know the caliber of person you are.

I think you have me confused with some one else. 
 

I haven’t call any one anything. Your the one calling names. 
 

we could have different experiences.  

[rossislider]

1 minute ago, oz31p said:

I think you have me confused with some one else. 
 

I haven’t call any one anything. Your the one calling names. 
 

we could have different experiences.  

I told you where the bullet hit, you said that it didn't hit that spot, and have now said it in multiple posts. May not be outright calling me a "liar", but really, it is what it is.

[oz31p]

1 minute ago, rossislider said:

I told you where the bullet hit, you said that it didn't hit that spot, and have now said it in multiple posts. May not be outright calling me a "liar", but really, it is what it is.

You haven’t told me anything. I though I saw a video from a year ago. You corrected me, I said I was wrong. Your pissed off at who ever you think I am. 

[lancetkenyon]

Nice 5x bull.  🤣

Good shot placement Sean.  I remember the story well.  210s did not perform for you.  Multiple well paced shots.  Across a vast chase.  Glad you finally anchored him.  

Sean is good people.  Tim is good people.

[oz31p]

3 minutes ago, lancetkenyon said:

Nice 5x bull.  🤣

Good shot placement Sean.  I remember the story well.  210s did not perform for you.  Multiple well paced shots.  Across a vast chase.  Glad you finally anchored him.  

Sean is good people.  Tim is good people.

Thanks lance.  I guess I pissed him off in the pass. Obviously unintentionally, and so I def apologize but I have not judged, criticized anyone.