QCwtAddict Report post Posted August 9, 2017 My understanding is the new rule will be no trail cameras with remote capability of sending pictures and no trail cameras within 1/4 mile of a point source of water (springs, dirt tanks, livestock water etc.) But that's all just speculation at this point right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DesertBull Report post Posted August 10, 2017 They will first have a dog and pony show where they pretend to listen to the people voice their opinions on the new rule. then when all have been given they slap each other on the back, give you the finger and do whatever they want. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZLance Report post Posted August 10, 2017 Un-enforceable! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CouesFanatic Report post Posted August 10, 2017 My understanding is the new rule will be no trail cameras with remote capability of sending pictures and no trail cameras within 1/4 mile of a point source of water (springs, dirt tanks, livestock water etc.) But that's all just speculation at this point right? No, its already written out and everything. Look at the meeting notes on the F&G page. The two things they have is no cameras within 1/4 mile of water and no cellular cams. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MT_Sourdough Report post Posted August 10, 2017 Me thinks AZGF will need to publish an inventory/map of water sources that apply. Springs, for example are often times seasonal. Put a camera down where there is no water around, but then it rains, springs and seeps pop up everywhere. !/4 mile in each direction, means a 1/2 mile radius with zero water. That's a huge range in my opinion. Would make cameras unusable in many areas. Close to an outright ban in wetter areas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MT_Sourdough Report post Posted August 10, 2017 What about water troughs that ranchers move around? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZ420 Report post Posted August 10, 2017 I think with trail cams being legal everywhere, most hunters will not touch another trail cam being they have the same opportunity to put one up as well. If a rule is set in place with no trail cams within a 1/4 mile of water, I doubt azgfd would even have to enforce it. Other hunters would take care of that issue, being they don't have the same opportunity to put a cam up within a 1/4 mile of water. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chico Report post Posted August 10, 2017 ^^^^^ If you put a camera out it will be messed with no doubt . Will turn up missing or no card....Just the way things are now. No respect for anything or anyone -- sad that public land hunting or recreating has gone by the wayside . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alpinebullwinkle Report post Posted August 10, 2017 Some units in the mountains have such a significant amount of lakes, streams, ponds, seeps and intermittent/seasonal flows that a rule such as being discussed would significantly reduce the "legal real estate" for hunters and other outdoor enthusiasts with cameras. Add in the facts Arizona has significant wilderness (roadless) areas and also that many of us "geezers" have a shorter tether......the potential regulatory impact is concerning. I avoid tanks all together due to comments previously made which reduces some, but not all frustrations. Even though I maintain numerous trail cameras for exercise, viewing pleasure, and hunting........ I do endorse banning real time cellular cameras for hunting which seems like unethical cheating to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites