Hunting with a 9mm carbine?

[Rock30golf]

I am sure this will get a little bit of mixed reviews.

 

Can a 9mm carbine kill a mule deer with no problem under 100 yards? I think anything over 100 yards is just asking for trouble.

[cactusjack]

Im gonna say yes. Depending on bullet type and weight and shot placement. The 16+ inch barrel you get good velocity and energy. It wouldnt be my first choice but it will work.

 

http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/9luger.html

 

and there is an energy chart you can open too.

[Hoss50]

What was said above. It wouldn't be my first choice either, but if I didn't have a better options I would do it. Try and use a good round, and good shot placement.

 

With a round that size you are just making your margin for error minimal.

[300RUM]

Consider that the FBI and numerous other LE agency's have abandoned the 9mm due to poor terminal performance. Yes it could work and the longer barrel will help but I would argue that the changes of a miserable failure are somewhat high.

[cactusjack]

What I remember reading is they are going back to it.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/world/national-security/fbi-moves-back-to-the-9mm-round-which-it-once-shunned-as-ineffective/2015/10/31/d7d0b994-7e80-11e5-afce-2afd1d3eb896_story.html

[PRDATR]

It's the no problem part that is debateable and than how far under. I know there was a Big Horn killed with a 357 in the late 80's but I don't recall the range.

I wouldn't want to place any bets on it.

[300RUM]

What I remember reading is they are going back to it.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/world/national-security/fbi-moves-back-to-the-9mm-round-which-it-once-shunned-as-ineffective/2015/10/31/d7d0b994-7e80-11e5-afce-2afd1d3eb896_story.html

Interesting article. I noticed it is dated Oct. 2015. I guess I should crawl out from under my rock and read the news more often.

 

With the following expectation "kill a mule deer with no problem under 100 yards" I would still argue against the 9mm.

[trphyhntr]

If you shot it in the head, no problem.

[cactusjack]

If you shot it in the head, no problem.

Unless it's wearing a Kevlar helmet and riot gear

[PRDATR]

What were those tests called where they shot goats to test bullet expansion?

[trphyhntr]

 

If you shot it in the head, no problem.

Unless it's wearing a Kevlar helmet and riot gear

Then I would finally have a reason to buy some ss190 for my fiveseven.

[cactusjack]

What were those tests called where they shot goats to test bullet expansion?

Those tests are called Awesome!

[Rock30golf]

You guys are all to funny!

[Arrowsniper]

My arrow is released at 300 fps and can easily kill an elk. I believe the 9mm velocity is way above 300 fps at 1,200 fps and higher. Yes, dead deer.

[cactusjack]

Arrows and bullets work in completely different ways. Not a good comparison. A 357mag pistol is used for deer, the energy from a 9mm carbine should be similar