PRDATR Report post Posted July 25, 2017 Someone posted this on FB and I thought I'd share. https://www.ampannealing.com/articles/40/annealing-under-the-microscope/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lancetkenyon Report post Posted July 26, 2017 Good read. Technical, but informative. In layman's terms: shoot, size, clean, annual, load. In that order to retain the most consistent neck/shoulder brass hardness and neck tension. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike S Report post Posted July 26, 2017 Thanks for posting. It's making my head hurt though... and I have a Professional Engineering license ;-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cell4soul Report post Posted July 26, 2017 Pretty nice annealing set up they make. That may be in my future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buddydog Report post Posted July 26, 2017 LancetKenyon, you say anneal after you size and before you load?? Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lancetkenyon Report post Posted July 26, 2017 Yes. I have always done it that way, as the resizing process work hardens the brass, and not always consistently. Annealing softens it back prior to loading. Also, if you need to trim/chamfer, it is easier to do that prior to annealing in my observations. Look at their data of brass hardness. They try different operational steps, and their findings show the same. Shoot, resize, clean, anneal, load... gave them the most consistent brass hardness time after time. Whether loaded 3x or 10x on a piece of brass, this practice was the most consistent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cell4soul Report post Posted July 26, 2017 Yes. I have always done it that way, as the resizing process work hardens the brass, and not always consistently. Annealing softens it back prior to loading. Also, if you need to trim/chamfer, it is easier to do that prior to annealing in my observations. Look at their data of brass hardness. They try different operational steps, and their findings show the same. Shoot, resize, clean, anneal, load... gave them the most consistent brass hardness time after time. Whether loaded 3x or 10x on a piece of brass, this practice was the most consistent. Are you full length sizing or just bumping the shoulders? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lancetkenyon Report post Posted July 26, 2017 Depends on cartridge and how many times the case has been fired. Some FL every time, some neck sizing 2/3 of the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MULEPACKHUNTER Report post Posted July 26, 2017 Ya that seems off to me, if the case is getting hardened the when you size you won't be getting a consistent sizing? I am set up to anneal but have not hit that point yet with my cases. I planned on trim then anneal and going from there. Seems if you sized then anneal you might need to neck size again to get consistent neck tension. I know when I neck size I pin check every neck and I see variation even with turned necks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MULEPACKHUNTER Report post Posted July 26, 2017 I guess if you annealing every load it would work fine. I have done every 2 or 3 loads for now. I've yet to put together a long range gun so I'm not doing every load. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites