AZkiller Report post Posted January 26, 2017 It is a pain but do you really want to put twns of thousands of dollars worth of items in a $500 box? Research all brands and take your time to find what is best for you. I highly recommend champion safes from the safe outlet. By far the best bang for your buck imho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Report post Posted January 26, 2017 I would try to save more $$. To get 11 gauge or better, your safe would be really small at $1,000. When your looking for steel wall thickness, if your not finding it on your ad, that is usually a sign of what the company is trying to hide, which is their weakness, steel thickness. Pros can get into the safe, it's just ... what level of resistance do you wanna offer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tmcguire Report post Posted January 26, 2017 Honestly, most safes under $1000 are just overpriced lockers with a fancy door. The UL safe ratings they give are just for the door. They don't even test the sides or top. Allot of safe companies exploit that fact and make a fancy looking box with sides you could cut through in a minute with basic hand tools. 1/4" plate construction is typically used as the minimum to be actually called a "safe". 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest akaspecials Report post Posted January 26, 2017 At $1,000 you can get a good safe to protect from fire, kids, and petty thieves. A buddy that welds can get into most of those safes in about twenty minutes though. Save up more and get something with an absolute minimum 3/16" wall and corner bolts if you're worried about protecting the stuff from a professional. Sturdy safe has good, albeit ugly, safes starting around 2k. I am preferential to Fort Knox but you'll owe the company your first newborn... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metau Report post Posted January 26, 2017 If you actually want to protect irreplaceable valuables, then you want to look for a safe with a TRTL-30x6 minimum rating. Everything you see in a box store is merely a security container, not a safe. Also look into the various UL fire ratings, don't go off what is listed on the side of the door. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jazz Report post Posted January 26, 2017 Honestly, most safes under $1000 are just overpriced lockers with a fancy door. The UL safe ratings they give are just for the door. They don't even test the sides or top. Allot of safe companies exploit that fact and make a fancy looking box with sides you could cut through in a minute with basic hand tools. 1/4" plate construction is typically used as the minimum to be actually called a "safe". ^^^^^ No commercial gun safe is fire rated. They made up their own rating. A huge gun safe takes about 15 minutes to break through with a $80 Saw from Home Depot. We all have them.. just don't rely on it too much. Use it with other security devices. (Alarms/Cameras) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Beavers Report post Posted January 26, 2017 Who knew safe buying could get this difficult. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MULEPACKHUNTER Report post Posted January 26, 2017 I bought mine from Costco for 1100.00 , it was 800 lbs empty and made by liberty. 60 min fire and 2 pins on top and 4 on the sides. Bolted down, alarm system on house, and dogs sleep in the room with it at all times. I feel comfortable with that. If some pro some how gets to it that can have it, I can replace everything in and around it. I doubt 2000.00 more spent would make my stuff safer? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjl2010 Report post Posted January 26, 2017 Don't clean your guns in the driveway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arrowsniper Report post Posted January 26, 2017 Honestly, most safes under $1000 are just overpriced lockers with a fancy door. The UL safe ratings they give are just for the door. They don't even test the sides or top. Allot of safe companies exploit that fact and make a fancy looking box with sides you could cut through in a minute with basic hand tools. 1/4" plate construction is typically used as the minimum to be actually called a "safe". ^^^^^ No commercial gun safe is fire rated. They made up their own rating. A huge gun safe takes about 15 minutes to break through with a $80 Saw from Home Depot. We all have them.. just don't rely on it too much. Use it with other security devices. (Alarms/Cameras) 15 minutes or less. The $1100 Costco, about 5 minutes. BUT, put an alarm on the inside, that reads temperature and game on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke-BE Report post Posted January 27, 2017 Wow a bunch of upset safe buyers out there!!! We all know any determine thief can get it in if they want! Safes keep the smash and grab guys out! Low percentage that your house will get robbed, and even lower odds that you going to get hit up by Ocean 11 guys. So get a good safe that would keep the smash and grab guys away, a good burn rating on it ( still lot better having your Pass Ports burn up so easily in your top drawer), and it a great thing to keep the kids out. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muledeerarea33? Report post Posted January 27, 2017 I'm building my "gun room" now (perk of building your own home) I'm not against a 1k safe. It should protect you 99.9% of the time. My room is concrete and steel with a bank vault door that's covered by a regular wall. It'll be like breaking into a bank (if you can find the front door.) but I lived with a $500 safe for years. Had a gun stolen from my truck but never a home invader. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viper Report post Posted January 27, 2017 Guns etc sells safes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chico Report post Posted January 27, 2017 You might try Safe City in Mesa south of the 60 on Mesa Drive. Saw their product at an Outdoor Function . Went to store. The fella that sold me one was very helpful and the service was excellent. Buy once and no worries. If you invest in top of the line equipment --- a safe should be no different IMHO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
