jr4asu Report post Posted October 22, 2016 Got a question, hopefully someone can help. New to shooting. So, my first shot is usually on the mark, then the rest start to drift right. I'm guessing its my form. I try to reset my self back as I was for the first shot. Winchester M70 270, ammo either Federal premium Sierra Gameking or Hornady Super performance sst. 130g for both. I know the muzzle velocity is different for both. It happens for both. I also wait between 3-5 min. between shots. I'm shooting at Ben Avery and using bags front and rear. The target picture is from today around 2:30 distance was 200yrds. Not worried about MOA grouping yet. Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lancetkenyon Report post Posted October 22, 2016 That is a 4" & 6" drift. Does this happen every time? A lot of time, vertical is load, horizontal is shooter. But NOT always. Could be seating depth. Could be a light charge. Could be shooter: Parallax Cheek weld Trigger torque Sympathetic torque Stock hand torque Barrel steel stress changing with heating Barrel contact with stock channel Action screw torque Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
forepaw Report post Posted October 22, 2016 My guess is bedding. It looks to me like your action is moving around. Torquing the action screws to spec. won't help if that is what's going on. You also could have a bad barrel. They are not real common, but do turn up occasionally. Before I did anything, I would clean, check all screws, and have someone who is a good shot shoot it and note the difference, if any. forepaw Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swivelhead Report post Posted October 22, 2016 That is a 4" & 6" drift. Does this happen every time? A lot of time, vertical is load, horizontal is shooter. But NOT always. Could be seating depth. Could be a light charge. Could be shooter: Parallax Cheek weld Trigger torque Sympathetic torque Stock hand torque Barrel steel stress changing with heating Barrel contact with stock channel Action screw torque Great Post ^^^^ Even when you think everything you can control is covered there are still many variables that come into play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jr4asu Report post Posted October 22, 2016 Okay thanks, I'm going with it's probably me. Shots do not always drift that much. Rifle is new, I broke it in and have cleaned it. Those shots were after around 40 rounds sense last cleaning. I am trying to stay on target after the shot, however sometimes it recoils back and to the right. Stock hand I try to keep it loose or not that much pressure. Pulling trigger with my finger tip. Cheek weld still trying to figure that out... good position. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jr4asu Report post Posted October 22, 2016 Last weekend Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Non-Typical Solutions Report post Posted October 22, 2016 That is a 4" & 6" drift. Does this happen every time? A lot of time, vertical is load, horizontal is shooter. But NOT always. Could be seating depth. Could be a light charge. Could be shooter: Parallax Cheek weld Trigger torque Sympathetic torque Stock hand torque Barrel steel stress changing with heating Barrel contact with stock channel Action screw torque D@M no wonder I can't shoot a group!!! Great info!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cosninocanines Report post Posted October 22, 2016 That is a 4" & 6" drift. Does this happen every time? A lot of time, vertical is load, horizontal is shooter. But NOT always. Could be seating depth. Could be a light charge. Could be shooter: Parallax Cheek weld Trigger torque Sympathetic torque Stock hand torque Barrel steel stress changing with heating Barrel contact with stock channel Action screw torque Excellent advice! New gun first step should be check and re-tighten all the scope mounting screws Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
L Cazador Report post Posted October 23, 2016 What direction and what intensity was the wind? Obviously unless you have a match barrel, you need to clean more often and probably a lot more thoroughly. Forty shots is a lot for a factory barrel. Bronze brush, Sweets, bore shine and four strokes for every shot for factory barrels and lot of dry patches afterwards! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jr4asu Report post Posted October 23, 2016 Update... Front action screw was not torqued to specs. Back was tight. So I loosened both up and retired both, front first. Cleaned barrel, regular solvent and copper solvent. We'll see how it shoots today. Thanks everyone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
el diablo Report post Posted October 23, 2016 Just aim to the left. Problem solved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Non-Typical Solutions Report post Posted October 24, 2016 Just aim to the left. Problem solved. I was thinking about this too.......or just make sure of the first shot!!! Good info, I liked the info about cleaning.....probably don't clean my guns nearly enough!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jr4asu Report post Posted November 6, 2016 I think I got it figured out... It was me. Both are at 100 yards today. I got the scope dialed in too. Winchester deer XP 130g first. Hornady American whitetail 130 second. Now just need to shoot more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
