4Falls Report post Posted October 3, 2016 I'm new to this whole predator calling thing. Had some time this morning coyotes were howling good before the sun came up. First stand brought in a few ravens. On my second stand I was able to get some coyotes to respond to a locator howl but nothing came in when I hit the distress call. They seeemed close but I was not able to see them. Third stand brought in some sort of little hawk. Every time out I get a little closer. One of these days I'll cross paths with a coyote less skilled than me. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eagle mountain ranch Report post Posted October 3, 2016 They can be tough especially with how much they are educated to calls and missed shots , but when it happens it happen quick. Goodluck it will happen if you stay persistent ...: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MRL1984 Report post Posted October 3, 2016 Now is the time to catch the less educated dogs as the pups are on their own and haven't had a lot of time to get call wise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rumhunter84 Report post Posted October 3, 2016 I'm new to this whole predator calling thing. Had some time this morning coyotes were howling good before the sun came up. First stand brought in a few ravens. On my second stand I was able to get some coyotes to respond to a locator howl but nothing came in when I hit the distress call. They seeemed close but I was not able to see them. Third stand brought in some sort of little hawk. Every time out I get a little closer. One of these days I'll cross paths with a coyote less skilled than me. How long did you call the stand ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muledeerarea33? Report post Posted October 3, 2016 If your in a high density area for coyotes or a high hunter density area the calls will change. Lots of dogs in an area.. Most calls will bring them in. Lots of hunters.. You need to use an obscure call, something not local. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AzDiamondHeat Report post Posted October 3, 2016 When you say "reaponding", what were they saying? Howling coyotes isnot always a good thing. Vocals, if used improperly, are justs likely to chase them away. Study what the vocals MEAN and keep at em. Distress calls this time of year tend to be a little more effective Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4Falls Report post Posted October 3, 2016 When you say "reaponding", what were they saying? Howling coyotes isnot always a good thing. Vocals, if used improperly, are justs likely to chase them away. Study what the vocals MEAN and keep at em. Distress calls this time of year tend to be a little more effective I inadvertently hit the female coyote sound. Almost immediately other coyotes were howling from what sounded like just over the ridge to the east of me. I paused for a while then did the same thing again, when they howled the second time they seemed closer. I was glassing hard for them as they howled but couldnt find a thing. After they shut up the second time, I began the jackrabbit sound. I'm new to this whole predator calling thing. Had some time this morning coyotes were howling good before the sun came up. First stand brought in a few ravens. On my second stand I was able to get some coyotes to respond to a locator howl but nothing came in when I hit the distress call. They seeemed close but I was not able to see them. Third stand brought in some sort of little hawk. Every time out I get a little closer. One of these days I'll cross paths with a coyote less skilled than me. How long did you call the stand ? I didnt time it. Maybe I should. Id guess 15-20 minutes first stand, around 30 on the second and probably less than 10 on the third. Im using a Foxpro Deadbone e-caller. I chose the spot because I consistanly glass up coyotes here when javelina hunting. But predator hunting is quite popular around here so Im sure every coyote around has heard a call or two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted October 3, 2016 Just run rabbit distress at every stand until you kill one. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4Falls Report post Posted October 3, 2016 Just run rabbit distress at every stand until you kill one. or till my batteries die, which ever comes first. This does bring up a good question though. How do you know when to give up on a stand and move on? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted October 3, 2016 Just run rabbit distress at every stand until you kill one. or till my batteries die, which ever comes first. This does bring up a good question though. How do you know when to give up on a stand and move on? hand call and you'll never run out of juice. personal preference and confidence, i only sit like 10-15 minutes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4Falls Report post Posted October 4, 2016 ok another question. Do you call at full volume all the time or do you vary the volume/intensity through the calling sequence? Ive been starting at a lower volume increasing it through the duration of the set, sometimes varying it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AzDiamondHeat Report post Posted October 4, 2016 depends on the terrain and the wind. If you are calling wide open grasslands, sure, blast it. They will come from miles. If you are calling desert canyons, your sound is pretty contained so no sense in blowing out every animal in that canyon with too much volume. With more time in the field you will find what works for the areas you hunt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRDATR Report post Posted October 5, 2016 When you say "reaponding", what were they saying? Howling coyotes isnot always a good thing. Vocals, if used improperly, are justs likely to chase them away. Study what the vocals MEAN and keep at em. Distress calls this time of year tend to be a little more effective I inadvertently hit the female coyote sound. Almost immediately other coyotes were howling from what sounded like just over the ridge to the east of me. I paused for a while then did the same thing again, when they howled the second time they seemed closer. I was glassing hard for them as they howled but couldnt find a thing. After they shut up the second time, I began the jackrabbit sound. I'm new to this whole predator calling thing. Had some time this morning coyotes were howling good before the sun came up. First stand brought in a few ravens. On my second stand I was able to get some coyotes to respond to a locator howl but nothing came in when I hit the distress call. They seeemed close but I was not able to see them. Third stand brought in some sort of little hawk. Every time out I get a little closer. One of these days I'll cross paths with a coyote less skilled than me. How long did you call the stand ? I didnt time it. Maybe I should. Id guess 15-20 minutes first stand, around 30 on the second and probably less than 10 on the third. Im using a Foxpro Deadbone e-caller. I chose the spot because I consistanly glass up coyotes here when javelina hunting. But predator hunting is quite popular around here so Im sure every coyote around has heard a call or two. Minimum 15 minutes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4Falls Report post Posted October 5, 2016 Thanks everyone for all the advice, hope to do better my next time out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Non-Typical Solutions Report post Posted October 5, 2016 Wind is critical IMO........but educated dogs are tough. Sometimes I do a mix of woodpecker distress and squeaking mouse mixing it up, something that isn't "recorded" to sound like all the others calling out there...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites