TREESTANDMAN Report post Posted September 10, 2004 I just wanted to get some of your guy's opinions and exeriences on what you have seen in coues batchelor herds. Have you seen small spikes and forkies w/ big mature bucks or have they usually been all fairly small or all big? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ernesto C Report post Posted September 10, 2004 Yes,forkies,good ones,nice ones and wall hangers;they were about 8 of them. Ernesto C. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TREESTANDMAN Report post Posted September 10, 2004 So it would be pretty normal to see a 100 inch buck running w/ a spike and a forky???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ernesto C Report post Posted September 10, 2004 Just on the late August mid September months,before or after that time .....so far I haven't seen them. I think mature bucks seldom what a very young buck with them on the fall and winter but there is ocasions where you'll se two bucks together with one being more mature that the other one;at least that's my experience and opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azpackhorse Report post Posted September 10, 2004 So far this year I have seen one bunch of 5 bucks that had 2 bucks in the 90 class and two in the 70's and 1 spike. Last weekend I saw 4 spikes running together. Generally I have mostly seen spikes and small forkies either together or with does this time of year. I took some video 2 weeks ago of 3 very nices bucks together, all of them being in the high 90's but I aint never been much good at judging them neither. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TREESTANDMAN Report post Posted September 10, 2004 In my experiences, most of the batchelor herds I have seen have been small to midsized bucks. All of the 90+ inch bucks have been solo during the summer. I know that this is not the norm, that is just what I have witnessed. Maybe the bigger bucks tend to stray from their buddy's? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coues addict Report post Posted September 10, 2004 Treestandman In my expieriences I have seen bucks of similiar age hanging together. Two years ago my son and I spotted 6 bucks that appeared to be together. After watching them we realized 2 were trophy class over 100''. When the bucks finally bedded down the 2 bucks completely seperated themselves from the youngsters. We screwed up the stalk on that deal but the next day we were right back in the same area. The 4 smaller bucks showed up but we never spotted the big guys. I came to the conclusion that deer are a lot like people and usually associate with deer or bucks in the same general age group. There are always exceptions to every rule, but for the most part I believe this to be true. I think this is also very true with mule deer. I think its kinda like Mom and Dad don`t wanna hang with there teenage kids, if you know what I mean! These are just my own conclusions though. I also have noticed that the truly big bucks are usually alone!, so I get real excited when I make a spot on a single buck! It doesn`t always work out, but sometimes it does. Good Luck Coues Addict Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TREESTANDMAN Report post Posted September 10, 2004 Thanks for the good info Coues Addict. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coues addict Report post Posted September 10, 2004 Treestandman I almost forgot, Congrats on the awesome bear kill! Sounds like you made a killer shot. Did you do any good yet on your deer? I went to utah a couple of weeks ago but I didn`t have any real great luck. Had a good time though, saw 5 tremendous Bull elk probably 350'' to 400'' range. I haven`t hunted there in 20 something years and I forgot how beautiful it was up there. Keep us posted on your deer hunts please. Thanks Coues Addict Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TREESTANDMAN Report post Posted September 10, 2004 Thanks for the congrats, The trail cameras helped a lot and TAM from this site is the one that originally showed me the area with all the bears. Utah in my opinion has some of the most beautiful and remote country in the US. Tomarrow I will be sitting over salt where I have got pictures of a big one so we will see if I get lucky. Good luck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trufletch Report post Posted September 10, 2004 In my humble experience, I don't think the bucks care who they hang out with, as long as the rut isn't happening. During the October and November hunts, we consistently see bachelor herds that run the gamut on horn size. Coupla years ago we watched a bachelor herd of 7 coues bucks on the side of the hill. Everything from a fork to a 108". I know he was 108" because we found them again that afternoon and my brother made a beauty shot on the 108". When the rut kicks in, all bets are off and mother nature takes over. Trufletch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TREESTANDMAN Report post Posted September 10, 2004 Very interesting Truefletch. Have you noticed the same thing in August/September? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trufletch Report post Posted September 10, 2004 I have noticed the same thing in units 33, 36A and 36C. Funny thing tho, just across the road in 36B, the coues bucks seem to congregate in smaller numbers. There they also seem to run the gamut, but to be honest with you, I can't recall seeing a bruiser in 36B with the real young bucks. The bruisers in 36B seem to like their solitude year round, or it could be just the area we are in. Just about the time I think I've got these guys figured out, they go and stump me again and I head back to the drawing board. guess thats why they call it hunting and not shooting. trufletch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bryson Bendall Report post Posted September 11, 2004 I've been hangin out in unit 35A for the past few years and I've seen a little of both. Last year I had an amazing shot at a small fork, 30 yrds, broad side. But I didn't shoot because standing behind him in a small dent in the hill was a record class 100+. He was in that indention just enough that I couldn't see him. well, this year, that same canyon, I've spotted a nice 95+ with another 80-85 incher. Also this year, I've seen another small fork with a nice 90+. So, I don't know if it is just the area, but deer are Weird. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ernesto C Report post Posted September 11, 2004 trufletch when is the rut? That's why I said winter. I should specify "rut" when a mature buck will not tolerate a younger buck with his does. My .02 cents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
