GameHauler Report post Posted August 24, 2007 Folks, we have a lot of people looking at this and other sites to find AMMO to use to stop hunting. I really feel if we think a bit about the words we use, we might not look like KILLERS. We are not killers, we are Hunters.. Hunting is much more than pulling the triger. I spend about 100+ days in the field to make our hunts the best they can be. That is the best part of the hunt....... Once the trigger is pulled, it's all about Work. Think about the words you use in your posts. I have never used the word Kill, I use the word "Harvest" We are a tool for the GF Dept. to keep the habitat in check. The tree-huggers do not understand that too many animals is as bad as not enough. Sorry, I had to vent. I hate the word "Kill" Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CouesWhitetail Report post Posted August 24, 2007 Here is another choice of words to discuss. I was teaching the hunting class at BOW this past weekend and someone suggested that I not use the word "weapon" when describing a firearm used for hunting. They said weapon carries along with it the connotation of war and murder. They suggested weapons are used to kill people and firearms are for hunting. I never thought of that kind of word choice before. Seems a bit of semantics to me, but I suppose it doesn't hurt to be sensitive to how we are perceived when talking about hunting. Amanda Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GameHauler Report post Posted August 24, 2007 I have one more thing to say. Some of our user names have a little to be Questioned. I am sorry to pic one but I feel it is the best example IWANTTOKILLSOMETHING) Dude I am sorry but, That is AMMO... Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GameHauler Report post Posted August 24, 2007 Here is another choice of words to discuss. I was teaching the hunting class at BOW this past weekend and someone suggested that I not use the word "weapon" when describing a firearm used for hunting. They said weapon carries along with it the connotation of war and murder. They suggested weapons are used to kill people and firearms are for hunting. I never thought of that kind of word choice before. Seems a bit of semantics to me, but I suppose it doesn't hurt to be sensitive to how we are perceived when talking about hunting. Amanda Thanks Amanda, I have wanted to post this for a LONG time. I really hope it does not pee anyone off, But I felt I had to. Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
COOSEFAN Report post Posted August 24, 2007 That is great advice Mike I agree 100% on the word KILL. I don't like that word either and always substitute "took, take, harvest, tagged, bagged, whacked, shafted, pole axed, pin wheeled, smoked, slammed, hammered, floored, stick, stuck, punched, drilled, dropped, and my all time favorite...layin' the smack down! I'm joking on most of these, but they are all better than the word KILL I think. I usually do use the words "took, take and harvested" the most and they sound the most professional and ethical. Great advice Mike! JIM> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billrquimby Report post Posted August 24, 2007 That is great advice Mike I agree 100% on the word KILL. I don't like that word either and always substitute "took, take, harvest, tagged, bagged, whacked, shafted, pole axed, pin wheeled, smoked, slammed, hammered, floored, stick, stuck, punched, drilled, dropped, and my all time favorite...layin' the smack down! I'm joking on most of these, but they are all better than the word KILL I think. I usually do use the words "took, take and harvested" the most and they sound the most professional and ethical. Great advice Mike! JIM> Sorry, folks, but my training as a journalist makes me cringe whenever I hear a hunter say he "harvested" an animal. (The same thing happens when I hear someone say "passed away" instead of "died.") Such words are highly unprofessional in my trade. For some reason, "took" and "take" do not disturb me, though. Perhaps it's because they actually are legal terms. We should not be ashamed to say “kill.” It's a sad day when we must revert to using euphemisms to describe what we do. We fool no one -- especially anti-hunters -- when we say “harvest” or something equally awful. As for "weapon," as Amanda says, the word should be applied to something used to attack someone or something, or defend against someone or something. It is more accurate to say "firearm,""handgun," "bow," "rifle," "shotgun," etc. The word "gun" (as in "gun hunters," which purist bowhunters use in a derogatory way to describe the rest of us) is too often misused. It refers to a shotgun, not a rifle or a pistol.http://forums.coueswhitetail.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif Bill Quimby Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GameHauler Report post Posted August 24, 2007 Interesting points I'll get back with ya in the morning on that one Got me thinking Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
COOSEFAN Report post Posted August 24, 2007 I definitely won't argue with you Bill on what is correct or not, but as far as me personally, I feel "harvested" sounds better than "Killed", but that's just me. I also agree we shouldn't have to change our wording when describing what we do, but I'm afraid we need to in todays world. The word "Kill" is a trigger word that I feel invokes a thought of a violent act or to cause death. The word "harvest" sounds better because it just describes taking something or gathering something. Both these words get the same point across. This is just my thoughts whether they are right or wrong, that's how I feel. I know some guys don't care what other people think and they are proud of our sport and talk freely no matter where they are. These same people will think I'm a wussy for being careful of what I say, but I think it's better to be careful. It doesn't take too much to turn a non-hunter into an anti-hunter! Just my $.02 JIM> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outdoor Writer Report post Posted August 24, 2007 Sorry, folks, but my training as a journalist makes me cringe whenever I hear a hunter say he "harvested" an animal. (The same thing happens when I hear someone say "passed away" instead of "died.") Such words are highly unprofessional in my trade. For some reason, "took" and "take" do not disturb me, though. Perhaps it's because they actually are legal terms. We should not be ashamed to say “kill.” It's a sad day when we must revert to using euphemisms to describe what we do. We fool no one -- especially anti-hunters -- when we say “harvest” or something equally awful. As for "weapon," as Amanda says, the word should be applied to something used to attack someone or something, or defend against someone or something. It is more accurate to say "firearm,""handgun," "bow," "rifle," "shotgun," etc. The word "gun" (as in "gun hunters," which purist bowhunters use in a derogatory way to describe the rest of us) is too often misused. It refers to a shotgun, not a rifle or a pistol.http://forums.coueswhitetail.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif Bill Quimby 10-4, Mr. Bill. -TONY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
COOSEFAN Report post Posted August 24, 2007 "Sorry, folks, but my training as a journalist makes me cringe whenever I hear a hunter say he "harvested" an animal. (The same thing happens when I hear someone say "passed away" instead of "died.") Such words are highly unprofessional in my trade" I'm intrigued by this.....maybe it's cause I'm a few sandwiches short of a picnic.........but is it just because these words or phrases are not the correct word to use when describing death? So professionally it would be wrong to use the wrong word? Or is it just because it doesn't sound right? Thanks for your input! JIM> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GameHauler Report post Posted August 24, 2007 Holly Carp Crap Tony I saw you posted and I thought it would take up 3 pages I am quite sure you will have more to add I think it is a topic that needs to be talked about. Can I send you my posts before I post them so my spelling is not "ATROCIOUS" Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
25-06 Report post Posted August 24, 2007 Great thred folks....Its a sad day that this is even being discussed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outdoor Writer Report post Posted August 24, 2007 Can I send you my posts before I post them so my spelling is not "ATROCIOUS" Mike So as not to amass any more demerits here, I'll send you a PM. And no, there won't be any more comment other than my agreement with Bill. I'm weaning myself away. -TONY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wklman Report post Posted August 24, 2007 i've always been proud to say i'm a hunter and have always felt that the word kill is an appropriate word to use when describing my hunts. what we are doing is putting ourselves in smaller and smaller boxes by limiting the words we use outta fear someones "feelings" are gonna get hurt. i think just the opposite of what you guys do. when we hide behind words like harvest,take or bag we restrict open and free speech and give into the oppositions arguements that they are right. i hate political correctness. say what you mean and mean what you say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GameHauler Report post Posted August 24, 2007 Can I send you my posts before I post them so my spelling is not "ATROCIOUS" Mike So as not to amass any more demerits here, I'll send you a PM. And no, there won't be any more comment other than my agreement with, Bill. I'm weaning myself away. -TONY Me TOO, I ment no harm. I love your post Yes, We both spend way to much time here See ya on a topic or two Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites