Huntn coues Report post Posted August 27, 2007 It's not a question of killing a dog or a deer but it is a question on how you go about it. I had a friend who had a dog and that dog was a pretty cool dog (so I thought) We were all sitting around playing poker when his nephew knocked on the door (7yrs old or so) and came in. A minute later the dog came in the room and attacked the boy and pretty much wigged out and tore the kids face half off (litterally) Well about 2 minutes later the dog got a 12 guage slug to the head. To me that is justifiable but he did not torture,electrify, drown or slam his head into the concrete. I know what is coming next but to me there is a HUGE difference in dispatching an animal quickly which most NORMAL people would do or have the intent to do. Now I know some of you are going to come back and say what about a bad shot that you put on the animal( it happens ) but not with intent. Maurbury and Vick are sorry pieces of chit. Vic for doing those dispicable acts and Marbury for being just an Idiot. Yep GOD bless America. And one of the the reasons split hooved animals are here on earth is to be consumed! Yes harvested and consumed ( in my stomach ) not beat or brutalized till it dies. My finger is getting tired ( yes I am a chicken pecker of the key board) so that was my .02 "phew" First ,I would like to extend sincere sympathy to your nephew .I hope he has recovered from this terrible attack. Of course killing this dog was justifiable , although in hindsight you probaly should have killed the dog by shooting it thru the heart and saving the brain for rabies analysis. What if the dog had just nipped the boy ? Would killing the dog still be justifiable ? What if it had only snapped at him ? Justifiable? What if it had growled at him ?....Justifiable? What about if you just didn't like the way it looked at him ?... Justifiable? What about if you knew the boy would soon be spending a lot of time around and you just didnt want to take chances? Would you be justified in a preemptive killing of the dog? Have you ever hunted any animal that didn't have split hooves? Did you consume them ? Aparrently you understand what I said about my friends nephew's face so where on Gods green earth did you come up with all that other mumbo jumbo garbage? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruffcountry Report post Posted August 27, 2007 Now as for your test , its too easy , its obviously HORSERACING .........no wait its....... DOGRACING ......no it must be..... HOGDOGGIN...... no I think its ...RODEO..... no its gotta be the .....CIRCUS ,....... BASS TOURNAMENT,.......VARMINT HUNTING CONTEST,.....CUTTING HORSE COMPETITION,......RATTLESNAKE ROUNDUP ,....... Guess I wasn't very clear. The activity must fit ALL FIVE criteria, not just a one or more. Try again. -TONY Many , many people would agree that they do meet all five , but don't you think inhumane and cruel are a bit redundant? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outdoor Writer Report post Posted August 27, 2007 Many , many people would agree that they do meet all five , but don't you think inhumane and cruel are a bit redundant? Many, many people thought the earth was flat, too. They even tried to convince others. So feel free to show how each of the activities cited meets each of the five criteria. Something can be inhuman yet not be cruel. One is emotional in nature, the other is physical. Or it can be both. cruel adj. 1. Disposed to inflict pain or suffering. 2. Causing suffering; painful. in·hu·mane adj. 1. a. Lacking kindness, pity, or compassion b. Deficient in emotional warmth; cold. 2. Not suited for human needs: an inhumane environment. 3. Not of ordinary human form; monstrous. It is inhumane to allow a pet to suffer, but hanging it from a tree limb is a cruel way to kill it. -TONY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.270 Report post Posted August 28, 2007 don't matter what anyone's opinion is. dog fighting is against the law. it's a felony. the gov't has designated it as such. vick is going to prison over it and he pled in a hurry because he wanted to keep it to a minimum. hunting is not against the law. in fact, it is protected by the law. you don't go to prison for hunting. every state has an agency that administers hunting law. it doesn't matter if a jackass nba dork compares the two or if some ill informed guy agrees with him. the difference between dog fighting and hunting is that dogfighting is illegal, hunting is legal. so is rodeo, horse racing, dog racing, fishing derbys, dog shows, etc. as long as hunting is legal, there is no room to compare it to dogfighting. Lark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruffcountry Report post Posted August 29, 2007 You all probaly hoping I've given up on this , but It's only that Ive had no time . 18 hour day ,today, has left me dog-tired. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TATAat27 Report post Posted August 30, 2007 Dog fighting and hunting are not closely related! You probably poke your deer eyes with a stick and yank on his tongue and call it clean fun. As human beings we have a responsibilty to take care of animals. The ability to hunt for me means we can manage local wildlife which lessens the chance for disease and overpopulation and it also means I get to take home some good eatin' meat. Dogfighting is senseless, find something else to gamble on if you must. The problem with America today is that people cant call right, right and wrong, wrong. It's all about peoples agendas. It used to be that a kid would come home and say "dad, my teacher spanked me on the hand for talking in class" and the dad would say "good, what were you talking in class for anyways, you were supposed to be listening!". Those days are long gone nowadays people will take the wrong side just to justify thier actions. For me, I believe God and whats written in His sacred Word, that's what I live by, not by popular opinion. Oh, and please don't try to compare sacrifices unto the Lord to dogfighting cause then you'll have to explain that to HIM on that day. Rich. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KGAINES Report post Posted August 30, 2007 Dog fighting and hunting are not closely related! You probably poke your deer eyes with a stick and yank on his tongue and call it clean fun. As human beings we have a responsibilty to take care of animals. The ability to hunt for me means we can manage local wildlife which lessens the chance for disease and overpopulation and it also means I get to take home some good eatin' meat. Dogfighting is senseless, find something else to gamble on if you must. The problem with America today is that people cant call right, right and wrong, wrong. It's all about peoples agendas. It used to be that a kid would come home and say "dad, my teacher spanked me on the hand for talking in class" and the dad would say "good, what were you talking in class for anyways, you were supposed to be listening!". Those days are long gone nowadays people will take the wrong side just to justify thier actions. For me, I believe God and whats written in His sacred Word, that's what I live by, not by popular opinion. Oh, and please don't try to compare sacrifices unto the Lord to dogfighting cause then you'll have to explain that to HIM on that day. Rich. TATA if the parent just said good for being in trouble at school those were the lenient parents, most kids hoped by taking the swat or whatever the parents wouldn't find out, because it was going to be way worse at home. Kids respected their teachers, their elders, and especially their parents, nowadays they have no respect for anyone, thus no respect for the law, mike vick isn't sorry for what he did, he is just sorry he got caught. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TATAat27 Report post Posted August 30, 2007 You're exactly right, thats what I was trying to get accross, thanks for the help! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Huntn coues Report post Posted August 30, 2007 Dog fighting and hunting are not closely related! You probably poke your deer eyes with a stick and yank on his tongue and call it clean fun. As human beings we have a responsibilty to take care of animals. The ability to hunt for me means we can manage local wildlife which lessens the chance for disease and overpopulation and it also means I get to take home some good eatin' meat. Dogfighting is senseless, find something else to gamble on if you must. The problem with America today is that people cant call right, right and wrong, wrong. It's all about peoples agendas. It used to be that a kid would come home and say "dad, my teacher spanked me on the hand for talking in class" and the dad would say "good, what were you talking in class for anyways, you were supposed to be listening!". Those days are long gone nowadays people will take the wrong side just to justify thier actions. For me, I believe God and whats written in His sacred Word, that's what I live by, not by popular opinion. Oh, and please don't try to compare sacrifices unto the Lord to dogfighting cause then you'll have to explain that to HIM on that day. Rich. TATA if the parent just said good for being in trouble at school those were the lenient parents, most kids hoped by taking the swat or whatever the parents wouldn't find out, because it was going to be way worse at home. Kids respected their teachers, their elders, and especially their parents, nowadays they have no respect for anyone, thus no respect for the law, mike vick isn't sorry for what he did, he is just sorry he got caught. The reason SOME kids are the way they are now is because the adault figures in their homes are WEAK!!! As for myself and alot of my freinds that have children we raise them like we were raised with values and honesty and respect and we learned it one way or the other. And If you want to talk about the disrespectful kids nowaday's these kids are a mirror image of their parents. (the apple does not fall far from the tree). As for myself I will keep on taking my kids to the outdoors with me on every hunt I can go on. My kids have taken my saying "GOD, FAMILY,and HUNTING" in that order and they are the best kids any one could ask for and THAT IS FACT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites