Dog Fighting Like Hunting?!?! What?!?!

[ruffcountry]

Guys, I think that there is common ground here... I am sorta hearing the same highlights on both sides. As good hunters I/we respect animals more than most people do. We respect their beauty, majesty, and life...... But Mother Nature is the Cruelest force on the planet.... far more cruel or brutal than any one human or animal. I think that we can all agree that, Vick is more animal than human, based on his inability to harbor emotion for an animal. I, for one, consider pitbulls as working dogs.... not pets. They are killing machines... I could care less if they live or die as a breed, but intentional torture of any living thing is just morally wrong, and bad karma to boot. I don't think that the original concept for dog fighting or cock fighting were meant to made so evil by man... but competion and money drove them to the sick and cruel things they have become... as well as inhuman people like, Vick. I also agree that in order to stand for what is right we have to be on the same side of the fence as our arch enemies (Anti's). It pains me to do so but, right, is right. I/we are not the kind of poeple that take joy in brutalizing any animal... and we should not support those that do, lest we be grouped in with them and lead to slaughter before the public eye. Our national groups should stand up and be heard that hunters don't support this kind of travisty, in order help support and strengthen our own case and point. As far as the pitbulls.... let 'em fight... that is what they are and that is what they do.... natural born killers. I wouldn't give you a wheat penny for the whole dang breed.... they have no other real purpose than to kill.... they are a senseless breed....IMO.

 

CnS

 

 

Got to ask . What do you think the original concept for dog fighting or cockfighting was?

[Coues 'n' Sheep]

Got to ask . What do you think the original concept for dog fighting or cockfighting was?

 

 

Not much different than sitting on a hill watching two bucks or two bulls go at it, or two rams knocking heads on a mountain top.... I don't know if that gets your heart pumpin', but it sure does mine!!!

[ruffcountry]

Got to ask . What do you think the original concept for dog fighting or cockfighting was?

 

 

Not much different than sitting on a hill watching two bucks or two bulls go at it, or two rams knocking heads on a mountain top.... I don't know if that gets your heart pumpin', but it sure does mine!!!

 

 

 

So God was the first animal fighter . I can go for that .

[Guest 300ultramag.]

Got to ask . What do you think the original concept for dog fighting or cockfighting was?

 

 

Not much different than sitting on a hill watching two bucks or two bulls go at it, or two rams knocking heads on a mountain top.... I don't know if that gets your heart pumpin', but it sure does mine!!!

 

 

 

So God was the first cockfighter . I can go for that .

 

It appears you are using this thread for your personal pleasure and to display an out look on life but I feel that I will no longer waste my time on this thread.You win go fight dogs!Enjoy.

Hopefully you can take your son to a dogfight and keep the tradition alive, IF IT is a so-called sporting event in your eyes; u should not feel bad exposing your children to this. It would be just like taking him to the ballpark.HAVE fUN MAYBE u can get an autograph!!!!!!!!!

 

I prefer my dogs as companions not entertainment that can be disposed of.

[KGAINES]

Boom goes the dynamite.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8...mp;confirm=true

Maybe he can get pacman as a cellmate, a bottle of valtrex, and he can now legally change his name to Ron Mexico, we can't forget the book deal that will soon follow, how I was sacked.

[ruffcountry]

I didnt start this thread and I didnt reply to it with intentions to flame it . I replied because animal rights is something that I hate . I feel that animal rights is a very steep and slippery slope .I was hoping to cause some to think about things a little deeper and see a little bigger picture of where our sport is as most of the world sees it . I can see the differnce in animal fighting and hunting , I just think its a smaller difference than most of you care to admit . The animal rights activists understand small differences very well and have used them most suceesfully with thier divide and conquer stategy . We have been our own worst enemy in many cases by not being more inclusive and sticking up for each others rights . When groups like PETA or The Humane $ociety Of the United $tate$ go after trappers or hound hunters or spring bear hunters or hog doggers or pigeon shooters or ciruses or rodeos or so called canned hunters or what ever other animal use group they could single out , too many times too many hunters who did not participate in that activity have stood by and did nothing .We are losing our rights thru incrementalism one small group at a time .In the U.S. only 6 percent of the population hunts and that number seems to be declining. We need allies and we should make them by supporting other animal use groups and opposing all animal rights laws . It seems to me that animal rights grew out of animal welfare laws and thats why I would gladly take us back to no animal laws.Make no mistake H$U$ is very rich and powerful and they are our biggest enemy . Vicks case which I think way to big of deal has been made of has only increased thier wealth and power . This is not good news , they are coming after us and more wealth and power means its going to be harder for us to fend them off .

 

I gotta sign off for now but I hope we can continue to discuss this . For now good luck and God bless and give some thought to supporting others whose enemies are yours .

[KGAINES]

I wouldn't support vick or anyone who was involved in that crap, I hope he gets all five years, and loses every thing he had. Its pretty dang hard to support a freaking felon, I aam not saying I would support him if dogfighting was legal, but he broke the law and he is an idiot, he gave up everything he had, it wasn't taken, he made a decision to do what he did and now he can live with the consequenses. I would support a lot of things in the name of hunters, but he crossed the line and now he has to pay, and just because peta and the other groups are against him we should be for him, screw that and screw him, he's a freaking loser and he proved it. Yes it is overblown, but when you are a 25 million dollar a year pro football quarterback you are going to get some press, he should have known better, but it does look like his money paid for some great lawyers because a poorer man would have had to face every dang charge.

[ruffcountry]

It is not only vain, but wicked, in a legislator to frame laws

in opposition to the laws of nature, and to arm them with the

terrors of death. This is truly creating crimes in order to

punish them.

 

--- Thomas Jefferson, 1779

[ruffcountry]

jimbeers.blogster.com/point_guards_peta

 

I will repeat .I have never owned a pitbull nor have I ever witnessed a dog fight . Please follow the link and read the story with an open mind . Jim is a much better writer than I and has been blessed with a spirit of discernment . May the spirit come to you .

[KGAINES]

Hopefully this will make it clear on how I feel about this topic. I don't give a dang where the nra, the humane society, peta, the RMEF, the firefighters, the legislature, the President, Hillary, or any freakin body else stands on this, I am Opposed to it, I am an American and I have the right to say and feel how I want, I hope the sick bastard and all his buddies spend a lot of years behind bars. He broke the law, there are a lot of legal things he can do with dogs and fighting them isn't one of them, poaching is illegal do you want to defend a poacher because a 100 years ago it wasn't against the law. There have to be certain laws and with them there has to be common sense, apparently he has no respect for the law, and abslutely no common sense. ruffcountry it is great to see both sides of an argument, I just don't care for the other side of this one.

[Coues 'n' Sheep]

Hopefully this will make it clear on how I feel about this topic. I don't give a dang where the nra, the humane society, peta, the RMEF, the firefighters, the legislature, the President, Hillary, or any freakin body else stands on this, I am Opposed to it, I am an American

 

Well, when you put it like that.... ... I'd say that all or most of us would agree that is how we should look at most of the issues of today, no just this one.

[Outdoor Writer]

With all due respect for Jim Beers' opinions, he's somewhat off base. The one thing I do agree with: the USSA rep did a terrible job of addressing O'Reilly's questions. It's too bad Rick Story didn't take on the task.

 

Now, here's a test. Match ALL of the following to any activity that involves live animals and humans:

 

Inhumane

Cruel

Sheer entertainment

money-oriented

wasteful

 

-TONY

[ruffcountry]

With all due respect for Jim Beers' opinions, he's somewhat off base. The one thing I do agree with: the USSA rep did a terrible job of addressing O'Reilly's questions. It's too bad Rick Story didn't take on the task.

 

Now, here's a test. Match ALL of the following to any activity that involves live animals and humans:

 

Inhumane

Cruel

Sheer entertainment

money-oriented

wasteful

 

-TONY

 

Thanks for reading the article , another good one is "Cries in the Night ".

 

Now as for your test , its too easy , its obviously HORSERACING .........no wait its....... DOGRACING ......no it must be..... HOGDOGGIN...... no I think its ...RODEO..... no its gotta be the .....CIRCUS ,....... BASS TOURNAMENT,.......VARMINT HUNTING CONTEST,.....CUTTING HORSE COMPETITION,......RATTLESNAKE ROUNDUP ,.......

[Outdoor Writer]

Now as for your test , its too easy , its obviously HORSERACING .........no wait its....... DOGRACING ......no it must be..... HOGDOGGIN...... no I think its ...RODEO..... no its gotta be the .....CIRCUS ,....... BASS TOURNAMENT,.......VARMINT HUNTING CONTEST,.....CUTTING HORSE COMPETITION,......RATTLESNAKE ROUNDUP ,.......

 

Guess I wasn't very clear. The activity must fit ALL FIVE criteria, not just a one or more. Try again. -TONY

[KGAINES]

Dogfighting and unless you are eating the chickens cockfighting is also in on this. It really sucks when a non hunter represents a hunter, or at least an ignorant hunter represents hunters. America is a dog loving society, people love their dogs, this includes non-hunters, anti-hunters, and hunters, dogfighting pisses off and offends 99% of the population.