Camofreak Report post Posted June 13, 2016 Just called them, they send to send it in and theyll have there gunsmith look at it... was hoping to have more of a definitive answer that, but itll work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Camofreak Report post Posted July 19, 2016 Finally just sent off the Creed. Since its out of warranty I was concerned, but the guy reassured me if it was obviously a manufacturing error it would not cost me on my part. So hopefully I'll get it back in working order and be on my marry way. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Camofreak Report post Posted August 8, 2016 Does anyone know what the chamber specs are for a 65CM? Just got the gun back and went to check some of the measurements as they said they reamed it out more, and now it seems the throat is wayyy long. When i went to check my OGIVE i pushed the bullet into the chamber and started pushing the bullet into the throat and it went all the way out of the case pretty much. Like my OAL is 3.050... Im going to shoot it with factory loads on wednesday, so i guess ill see. But right now it seems way off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Camofreak Report post Posted August 8, 2016 And bare with me, as im new to this and my lingo may not be right, lol. Im also using a 140gr HVLD so i understand the measurements may be different for other bullets, but i still think thats way long. I may be over thinking it though (Long weekend of bears/deer scouting). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lancetkenyon Report post Posted August 8, 2016 Not quite the same animal, but close enough. My .260 Rem and 6.5 SLR both have about .110 to .120" jump to lands to fit in the magazine box. I can seat the bullets way out to touch the lands, but they won't fit in that mag that way. But the extra case and neck length of the .260/6.5 SLR over the 6.5 Creed still allows good bullet purchase. The good thing about a longer leade or throat length will net you a bit of speed from the jump. Kind of like a Weatherby throat. Take a look at a reamer print to see what SAAMI numbers are for the throat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Camofreak Report post Posted August 8, 2016 Thanks Lance, after looking over the SAAMI specs it looks like im just about okay. Only other question i have is that the SAAMI specs say max bullet length is 2.825", but when i measure the ogive and i pus my bullet into the lands the COAL is 3.050. Is SAAMI referring to max bullet length as the max length that will fit in the mag? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ctafoya Report post Posted August 8, 2016 this is a lot like the problem I am having with my savage 116 in 300wsm. I have it narrowed down to the case right now. I just picked up some new norma brass, and it is not tight. Old brass is still tight. I have measured everything possible on both cases and they are the same. I just cant figure out what the deal is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lancetkenyon Report post Posted August 8, 2016 SAAMI specs are so the cartridge will fit in every factory rifle, single shot or repeater. Meaning the shortest magazine box dictates COAL. SAAMI COAL does not have to be adhered to in reloads. If you want a 3.8" cartridge making your rifle a single shot, go for it. I don't think I have a single rifle, or worked up loads for a rifle, that meet SAAMI specs for COAL. All of mine are seated longer that SAAMI numbers. I tune my loads to MY guns. Not a general load to fit every gun. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lancetkenyon Report post Posted August 8, 2016 this is a lot like the problem I am having with my savage 116 in 300wsm. I have it narrowed down to the case right now. I just picked up some new norma brass, and it is not tight. Old brass is still tight. I have measured everything possible on both cases and they are the same. I just cant figure out what the deal is.Something has grown that you are not catching. OAL, base to shoulder, case diameter, bullets loaded too long, neck sizing, etc. What are you using to measure case base to shoulder? Or case base to neck/shoulder junction? Even .001" can make a difference between and easy bolt and a stiff bolt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ctafoya Report post Posted August 8, 2016 Base to shoulder I have no way to measure. Just overall length. I have loaded this brass more times than I can count so the thought that it is stretched makes a lot of sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Camofreak Report post Posted August 8, 2016 SAAMI specs are so the cartridge will fit in every factory rifle, single shot or repeater. Meaning the shortest magazine box dictates COAL. SAAMI COAL does not have to be adhered to in reloads. If you want a 3.8" cartridge making your rifle a single shot, go for it. I don't think I have a single rifle, or worked up loads for a rifle, that meet SAAMI specs for COAL. All of mine are seated longer that SAAMI numbers. I tune my loads to MY guns. Not a general load to fit every gun. Gotcha, sounds like she should be good! It's definitely not tight anymore, and my bullets aren't getting stuck and scraped up anymore, so we're good there! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smith2260 Report post Posted August 8, 2016 Cyafoya... I was having an issue with my 300wsm brass chambering also. My brass was just a touch long, 2.095-2.100. I trimmed all my brass to 2.090 per the Lyman book, and it all chambers perfectly now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lancetkenyon Report post Posted August 9, 2016 Base to shoulder I have no way to measure. Just overall length. I have loaded this brass more times than I can count so the thought that it is stretched makes a lot of sense.How are you measuring how far you bump the shoulder back when you resize? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike S Report post Posted August 9, 2016 Once the brass has been work hardened thru repeated firings, you can expect some spring back after shoulder bumping with your original die setting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ctafoya Report post Posted August 10, 2016 No clue what you guys are talking about. Looks like I have a long ways to go...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
