36B Hassles

[Non-Typical Solutions]

OK, here is the story, I made an error on my deer application, instead of hunt 1108, I put hunt 1118. SO...that threw me into a unit I have no info on, never hunted, and have had stories from friends about how there are big coues, but too many problems with hunters and border crossers.

Can anybody give me an idea of what I am up against.

Looking forward to a good coues hunt, just want to be prepared...

Thanks,

Redneck

[anthonyrmatthews]

Never hunted that side of the road. I hunt 36C, and ALWAYS glass up some illegals in there. I just mind my own and stay away. I make sure I lock everything up, thou! A buddy that hunts the B side said the problems are just as bad on that side of the road. Good luck, and have fun on that hunt!

[firstcoueswas80]

you have 36b october... a good hunt but spend some time scouting and know the unit!

[COOSEFAN]

Welcome to the site Redneck

 

I honestly believe that you are safer and will have less problems when you are closer to the border. I'm sure some will disagree, but I have spent a TON of time in that unit and never had a bad experience. I have seen and run into lots of illegals, but they are fresh on their journey and haven't reached that desperate stage yet. Most illegals we see down there will avoid you at all cost and if you do run into them the've been pleasant and not hostile. I have not delt with drug runners yet, but they obviously have made it a point to hide from me and stay out of my camps. I think as the illegals get farther north they start getting desperate and I hear about more stolen property and bad run-ins up in those units. All I know for sure is it's YOUR country and it's YOUR hunt.......don't let anyone ruin it for you......take some friends and go hunt! JIM>

[Apatkelley]

I helped a couple of guys on an October 36A hunt last year. We saw lots of trash and some huge trails left by the UDAs, but we also saw lots of deer and several good bucks. Both hunters were finished by 9:30 opening morning. I think the deer get used to seeing people all the time and for the most part, the UDAs leave them alone. It almost seems like the deer were not quite as spooky.

[wklman]

i was quail hunting with my brother and a friend in 36b last january and found a human skull while i was walking back to my truck. after i helped the sheriff get back into where i was hunting we found the rest of the bones scattered down the drainage he was in. he was an illegal who had died during the summer months.my brother found his wallet with pictures of him and everything.it was quite an experince to say the least.

[Coues 'n' Sheep]

i was quail hunting with my brother and a friend in 36b last january and found a human skull while i was walking back to my truck. after i helped the sheriff get back into where i was hunting we found the rest of the bones scattered down the drainage he was in. he was an illegal who had died during the summer months.my brother found his wallet with pictures of him and everything.it was quite an experince to say the least.

 

 

That's not something you do everyday!

 

My advice is.... Have a great hunt and just play smart while your down there. Better to be safe than sorry. Good Luck!

 

CnS

[Outdoor Writer]

Here's a somewhat amusing story about 36B -- my fav unit for Coues, although I haven't hunted it for about 5 years.

 

The last time my son and I drew permits for the Dec. hunt, we set up camp on the little road that heads north just after passing the Sycamore Canyon trail head area. Nearly every day, a couple of BP agents in an unmarked dunebuggy passed beside our camp, which was only yards from a gate. So they had to stop and open it each time. If I happened to be around, I would exchange pleasantries with them. Of course, during the days we traveled about the unit, we also saw numerous BP vehicles on the Ruby Road.

 

So fast forward to our last day. We pack up camp and load it all into the truck and trailer I was hauling and begin the journey on the Ruby Road out to I-19. We went only a few miles when we came upon a guy hitch-hiking along this MAIN road. It was mid-morning! Yup, an illegal -- complete with the requisite liter pop bottles filled with water and a blankie dangling from heavy twine over his shoulders.

 

My son and I cracked up because we both thought the same thing -- how the heck did this guy know we weren't BP agents. We figured it took either a lot of nerve or complete stupidity to actually stick out his thumb. -TONY

[GHOSTLUVR]

Here's a somewhat amusing story about 36B -- my fav unit for Coues, although I haven't hunted it for about 5 years.

 

The last time my son and I drew permits for the Dec. hunt, we set up camp on the little road that heads north just after passing the Sycamore Canyon trail head area. Nearly every day, a couple of BP agents in an unmarked dunebuggy passed beside our camp, which was only yards from a gate. So they had to stop and open it each time. If I happened to be around, I would exchange pleasantries with them. Of course, during the days we traveled about the unit, we also saw numerous BP vehicles on the Ruby Road.

 

So fast forward to our last day. We pack up camp and load it all into the truck and trailer I was hauling and begin the journey on the Ruby Road out to I-19. We went only a few miles when we came upon a guy hitch-hiking along this MAIN road. It was mid-morning! Yup, an illegal -- complete with the requisite liter pop bottles filled with water and a blankie dangling from heavy twine over his shoulders.

 

My son and I cracked up because we both thought the same thing -- how the heck did this guy know we weren't BP agents. We figured it took either a lot of nerve or complete stupidity to actually stick out his thumb. -TONY

These guys are not afraid of being deported. There's no penalty until they are caught for the third time. They are treated well and given a good meal then back with their family generally within 48 hours. Then have the nerve to try again (claiming a different name) generally seen in state a couple days after deportation. Obviously a serious probablem and is changing wildlife patterns throughout the state! Probably should have been on another thread, but peaked my interest just the same. -Seth

[Outdoor Writer]

These guys are not afraid of being deported. There's no penalty until they are caught for the third time. They are treated well and given a good meal then back with their family generally within 48 hours. Then have the nerve to try again (claiming a different name) generally seen in state a couple days after deportation. Obviously a serious probablem and is changing wildlife patterns throughout the state! Probably should have been on another thread, but peaked my interest just the same. -Seth

 

But geez, you would think they would try to AVOID being caught and deported rather than blatantly hitch along the main road in the area where the BP presence is so evident. Obviously, it took a bit of effort to get where he was already, so why paint a "here I am" on his back if he would have to go through it all again? Makes no sense. -TONY

[GHOSTLUVR]

Tony, that may go back to your last question asking if it was pure stupidity??? To much sun on the ol brain on that fella. Anyways it's a major problem and I have made mention in several places reference this and the marijuana gardens that are being cultivated in our favorite whitetail haunts (SERIOUS HUNTER SAFETY)!! When I get a moment and figure out the new topic portion of this site, I'll post some good information for your guy's safety. Seth

[Outdoor Writer]

Tony, that may go back to your last question asking if it was pure stupidity???

 

Bingo! Exactly why I proposed such a reason. -TONY

[DesertBull]

One of my archery clients had the job of flying them back to Mexico. He said they would fly them as far south in Mexico that they could. Near the southern border.

 

He got to know some of them on a first name basis.

[wklman]

Tony alot of the ones hitchhiking on the main roads are rabbits( the guys that bring a load of drugs on there back).after the load has been picked up they find the BP and get a free ride back to mexico to get another load.

[Non-Typical Solutions]

Wow, actually sounds kind of interesting. I have spent the last 15 years hunting mulies up in unit 10. They have sold off alot of that unit just north of Ash Fork, 40 acre parcels, and the biggest problem with that hunt is bumping into landowners who are now the proud owners of what used to be your honey hole. Lots of signs like "trespassers will be shot" type of stuff.

Looking forward to a good change of venue down south. I hunted 34B I think it is about 20 years ago and enjoyed watching those little coues appear out of thin air that I had been glassing for the last three hours.

Thanks for the heads up info, sounds like fun.

Redneck