krp Report post Posted May 14, 2016 My take on the deal: $37.00 res. Hunt lic.+ $13.00 draw fee+ $5.00 pointguard = $55.00. Per bonus point . You go Krp. My dad has a pioneer license, my wife hunts elk but not deer, no license fee, others only buy a license every 2 years, anyone that hasn't figured that out is ignorant... and I only have to pay 5 bucks the year the points are used. Kent 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5guyshunting Report post Posted May 14, 2016 The pot calling the kettle black ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krp Report post Posted May 14, 2016 Seriously... did you not know you can apply two years application on one license? Kent 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rossislider Report post Posted May 14, 2016 Seriously... did you not know you can apply two years application on one license? Kent Fairly certain I know where you are going with this, and I'm likewise pretty certain you are wrong. But I'd love to hear your train of thought. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krp Report post Posted May 14, 2016 I'm not going anywhere. I'm stating realities and fact. I can buy a license on feb 1st and apply for elk and the next year apply for elk on Jan 31 on the same license. I only have to buy a license again if drawn. Otherwise do it again the 3rd and 4th. Kent 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rossislider Report post Posted May 14, 2016 I'm not going anywhere. I'm stating realities and fact. I can buy a license on feb 1st and apply for elk and the next year apply for elk on Jan 31 on the same license. I only have to buy a license again if drawn. Otherwise do it again the 3rd and 4th. Kent That is where I figure you were going. Doesn't work that way. See the exerpt I posted above from the regs. Your license must be valid on the last day of the application deadline, not the day you apply. The license you buy on Feb 1 will not be valid on the final day of the application deadline the following year. Take 2016 and 2017 for example. Let's say you bought your license in 2016 on the last day possible for elk which was 2/09/16. In 2017 that draw deadline will be on 2/14/17 (second Tuesday in February). You license is no longer valid. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5guyshunting Report post Posted May 14, 2016 Seriously... did you not know you can apply two years application on one license? Kent One day Grasshopper, If you are good, I might tell you a way to draw 10 elk tags in 12 years without trying a scam. Good luck with point guard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naturebob Report post Posted May 14, 2016 Thanks for starting this Kent. Very interesting. Good to hear Your voice to Kent...................BOB! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krp Report post Posted May 14, 2016 I'm not going anywhere. I'm stating realities and fact. I can buy a license on feb 1st and apply for elk and the next year apply for elk on Jan 31 on the same license. I only have to buy a license again if drawn. Otherwise do it again the 3rd and 4th. Kent That is where I figure you were going. Doesn't work that way. See the picture I posted above from the regs. Well if you want to be a stickler, which G&F isn't, Only a few years aren't descending. 2nd tuesday... 9th this year, 10th last year, 11th the year before, ect till it resets. Reality, you are in the draw if you license is good at application. Kent Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krp Report post Posted May 14, 2016 Thanks for starting this Kent. Very interesting. Good to hear Your voice to Kent...................BOB! Bob, how many times do we have to fight these same battles. I swear folks have to have it rubbed in their face to get it and some never do. Kent Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krp Report post Posted May 14, 2016 Seriously... did you not know you can apply two years application on one license? Kent One day Grasshopper, If you are good, I might tell you a way to draw 10 elk tags in 12 years without trying a scam. Good luck with point guard. And friend, I know the draw as well as anyone... maybe I can show you how to draw 3 dec deer tags in 4 years... which I did up to 2 years ago before I changed my focus. Kent Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZ8 Report post Posted May 14, 2016 For the record, I was against this proposal when it came up. Sent my concerns to G&F. The manipulation has been discussed ad nauseam, so I won't go over it again. I think Kent has touched on the key points. I'm still against it, but too late for that. Think a few guys are overlooking the fact you won't get your money back. Last bullet point: The hunt permit-tag fee is non-refundable. The fact that the Department can do whatever it wants with the "give back" tag should be a red flag for all sportsmen and women. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5guyshunting Report post Posted May 14, 2016 Seriously... did you not know you can apply two years application on one license? Kent One day Grasshopper, If you are good, I might tell you a way to draw 10 elk tags in 12 years without trying a scam. Good luck with point guard. And friend, I know the draw as well as anyone... maybe I can show you how to draw 3 dec deer tags in 4 years... which I did up to 2 years ago before I changed my focus. Kent im gonna try to focus on Trump kiken Hillarys #unt. Then we might still be able to Hunt. Good luck with the draw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krp Report post Posted May 14, 2016 When this first came out, it was the lead for the portal, and what G&F thought was needed to promote the portal. But along with the portal was the premium membership which had a fee. The tag redistribution to premium members was the carrot. The portal without the premium membership was finally seen to be best after some continuous meetings. Also the tag giveback was shelved because of these very issues. At first the tag giveback was not restricted and a BP was awarded. I used the same scenario of my granddaughter, but I could get her a 23 late rifle bull hunt every year, and give back the same tag every year. I've killed lots of elk, I don't have to kill another if my granddaughter can kill 300 bulls every year. Someone said, well G&F will notice and be watching you... my response was... So, they can watch me all they want, it's the new system and not illegal. Even with the one and done, this new 'system' will wreck havoc on the draw, BPs and those that can't figure out how to transition. Good luck. You young guys can step up and fight the fight now... or not. Kent Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest 300ultramag. Report post Posted May 14, 2016 will the G&f bee transparent on the issued surrendered tags? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
