Xnt Report post Posted May 11, 2016 Duplicitous Doug Ducey, the Chamber-of-Commerce Republicant governor, has vetoed HB 2524. This AzCDL sponsored bill would have created an interstate compact with other states to preempt the evil Michael Bloomberg from bringing his universal background checks to Arizona through the initiative process. Because of the Arizona state constitution, an initiative passed by the people cannot be overridden by the legislature, hence the preemption attempt through the interstate compact. The door is now open for the ravenous wolves of the Left to sink their blood thirsty fangs into the rights of Arizonans. They're fresh off the victory of their successful I-594 in Washington state, where every private gun sale must have a background check to avoid running afoul of the law. One need not listen to Alex Jones to understand what their clear intent is: gun registration. They've said so. We shouldn't be surprised to see Bloomberg's thugs spend another $10 million in Arizona much like Washington to garner 150,000 petitioners by early July to put it on a state wide initiative for this fall. Here's to hoping gun owners of Arizona come out en masse should this initiative arise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DesertBull Report post Posted May 11, 2016 The NRA was in favor of the veto. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DesertBull Report post Posted May 11, 2016 view the web version of this email NRA-ILA: Institute for Legislative Action Arizona: Governor Ducey Signs Important Pro-Gun Legislation! This morning, Governor Doug Ducey signed two important pro-gun bills, Senate Bill 1266 and House Bill 2338. SB 1266 is an important bill which ensures consistency in gun laws throughout the state by strengthening the states current preemption statutes. HB 2338 would prevent educational institutions from adopting policies that would prohibit individuals from lawfully possessing or carrying a firearm in their vehicle (means of transportation) or on their person, on a public right-of-way. Governor Duceys signing of these two bills was preceded by his signing of House Bill 2224 last month. HB 2224 prohibits the state and any political subdivision from levying a fee, tax, assessment or other financial encumbrance on the transfer of a firearm between two private parties who are not prohibited under state or federal law. By signing HB 2224 into law, Governor Ducey has reaffirmed that private citizens who are not prohibited from owning and possessing firearms have the right to conduct infrequent transfers without government intrusion. This morning, Governor Ducey also announced his veto of House Bill 2524 which would create a Uniform Firearm Transfer Compact. Governor Ducey states: I see no reason for Arizona to tie ourselves to other states decisions on public policy relating to the transfer of firearms. We know whats best for our state, and I trust the citizens of Arizona and their elected leaders to continue to make wise decisions to protect our Second Amendment rights, whenever and wherever those rights are infringed. Please thank Governor Ducey for supporting your Second Amendment rights by signing these pro-gun bills. Also, please thank the legislators who voted in support of these bills and worked tirelessly to ensure their passage through the legislature. NRA-ILA: Institute for Legislative Action FOLLOW NRA-ILA Facebook Twitter YouTube Instagram © 2016 National Rifle Association of America, Institute For Legislative Action. To contact NRA-ILA call 800-392-8683. Address: 11250 Waples Mill Road Fairfax, Virginia 22030. Please do not reply to this email. Unsubscribe from this email list | Manage your email preferences Thank you! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AverageJoe Report post Posted May 11, 2016 I agree with the veto as well. Arizona will likely be the last state to stand up for gun owners so why tie ourselves to other states who will cave to the pressure before us? Az is and will always be the leaders in gun ownership. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xnt Report post Posted May 11, 2016 I agree with the veto as well. Arizona will likely be the last state to stand up for gun owners so why tie ourselves to other states who will cave to the pressure before us? It only "ties" us to preventing an initiative that would enable universal background checks. No other state soverignty would be handed over. A background check initiative would likely be unsuccessful in a presidential election year but the voter turnout is often a drastically different picture in an off year where the Aacorn groups and unions have their comparatively better organization that conservative movements. We'll roll the dice and I see, I guess. Az is and will always be the leaders in gun ownership. Yes, mainly through excellent organization and pressure on the legislature through influential organizations like AzCDL. and that's why we're such a target for Bloomberg and his cronies. They'd love nothing more than to stab at the crown jewel of pro gun states. Also with our constitution the only way to override a successful ballot initiative would be a lawsuit. the legislature can't go back and override it after the fact. the Second Amendment Foundation has graciously funded this attempt in Washington whilst NRA is nowhere to be found. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
25-06 Report post Posted May 12, 2016 May God bless the good ol wild west. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coach Report post Posted May 12, 2016 IMO, the story we rarely hear in the popular media is that in Arizona, concealed carry is as open as open carry and our susceptibility to gun violence is minimal. There are certain areas where gang violence occurs, but outside those areas it's almost statistically nothing. We have the least infringement I know of to carry when, where and how you choose to. If I walk into a Wal Mart I see open carry all the time and assume for every one of those people there are at least 2-3 concealed, conservatively. The dumbest thing someone could do is go into a populated area in small town AZ and try to pull off some type of shooting hoping you would be safe until the cops get there. It really ticks me off that we don't hear more about this when this dumb debate just keeps coming up. People meant on doing harm want to hit the softest target they can find. They know darn well how hard that is when the vast majority is armed. AZ should be held up as the example of how less gun regulation leads to less crime, and how big government "control" in Chicago, Detroit, even our Capital, Washington DC have the tightest gun control laws and highest rates of crimes committed with guns. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xnt Report post Posted May 14, 2016 The NRA was in favor of the veto. I don't really see in that press release where NRA states that it supports the veto. Regardless, they didn't lift a finger to stop I-594 in Washington, and now even lending a rifle to a friend can land you in jail if you don't conduct a background check. Thanks for nothing NRA. My money stays with GOA and and AzCDL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xnt Report post Posted May 14, 2016 From AzCDL: The 2016 Legislative session is officially over. The status and summary of bills that AzCDL monitored this session can be found on our Bill Tracking page.The Good NewsIn addition to stopping almost a dozen bad firearms related bills from progressing through the Legislature, AzCDL was instrumental in getting the following bills through both chambers of the Legislature and to the Governor’s desk where they were signed into law.HB 2224, the AzCDL-requested bill that prohibits state or local governments from requiring any fee, tax, etc. on the private transfer of firearms.HB 2338, the AzCDL-requested bill that prohibits the governing boards of educational institutions from banning firearms on public rights of way, such as city streets and sidewalks that happen to pass through campuses.SB 1266 puts teeth into the preemption statutes by allowing for civil actions when state agencies, counties, cities, etc. disregard the law.SB 1487 requires the Arizona Attorney General to investigate local ordinances that violate Arizona’s Constitution or state law.The Bad NewsFor several years we have been pushing legislation to end Arizona’s official policy of allowing armed criminals to enter government buildings through the use of impotent “no weapons” signs as their only means of security. As long as the bad guys can come and go at will in public facilities, we believe all law-abiding citizens should be able to protect themselves. This year’s bill was SB 1257 which said in essence that if state and local governments’ only means of security was a cardboard sign, then CCW permit holders should not be disarmed when entering. At the request of the Governor’s staff, SB 1257 was amended in the House. However seeing that the bill only needed one more floor vote to pass out of the Legislature, his staff then lobbied the Senate to kill the bill. We learned our lesson – cooperating with this Governor is not necessarily a good thing.We were able to get this year’s version of our interstate firearms compact bill, HB 2524, through both chambers of the Legislature but it was vetoed by Governor Ducey. You may recall that last year, after Bloomberg’s lobbyists appeared at the Capitol, the compact bill was buried in the Senate Rules Committee while the clock ran out on the session.HB 2524 would have established an interstate compact between Arizona and other states that prevented the member states from enacting firearms transfer requirements more restrictive than existing federal law. Enactment of HB 2524 would have neutralized Bloomberg’s ballot measure to criminalize private firearms transfers, which he has promised to file in Arizona.Stopping BloombergIn 2014, after passing a “universal background check” ballot measure in Washington, Bloomberg’s Everytown for Gun Safety organization bragged that Nevada, Maine and Arizona were next. In Nevada and Maine the groundwork is completed. They will have “universal background check” measures on their November ballots. Bloomberg has less than 2 months to accomplish the same thing here in Arizona. We must operate on the assumption that it will happen and be prepared to not just fight it, but to stop it from becoming the law in Arizona.With the veto of HB 2524, legislative remedies are no longer available. We can only stop him at the ballot box. If Bloomberg’s ballot measure passes, Arizona’s Constitution prevents it from being overturned by a subsequent Legislature.From what we’ve seen happen in Washington, Nevada and Maine, we cannot count on outside help. The reality is that we must fight this battle ourselves. AzCDL is self-funded and operates from the generosity of our members. To maintain our independence we are unaffiliated. We don’t receive corporate grants or have a rich sugar daddy hiding in the shadows. Your donations determine if we succeed or fail. In order to win this, we are going to need your support to help us spread the word. When the next fund raising letter hits your inbox, please remember that we can only defeat Bloomberg with your help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Explorer Report post Posted May 14, 2016 Side note. Buy all you can before the gun stores Jack up prices when the election starts kicking off. Bunch of greedy wolves out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edge Report post Posted May 16, 2016 Xnt, Did Ducey sight a reason for the veto? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AverageJoe Report post Posted May 16, 2016 The NRA was in favor of the veto. I don't really see in that press release where NRA states that it supports the veto. Regardless, they didn't lift a finger to stop I-594 in Washington, and now even lending a rifle to a friend can land you in jail if you don't conduct a background check. Thanks for nothing NRA. My money stays with GOA and and AzCDL. You cant stop anything in liberal states. Its up to the people. Have you been to Washington? Lol. Its a lost cause Share this post Link to post Share on other sites