Swivelhead Report post Posted April 15, 2016 Didn't draw a darn thing so tonight, AZG&F gets both barrels. lol What do you all think about AZG&F withholding available draw results from bonafide applicants who choose not to have an account with AZG&F? Why are the bureaucrats, holed up in their compound out on Carefree highway, bent on coercing us to submit to their wishes? The coercion is subtle but unmistakable, what are they after? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wish2hunt Report post Posted April 15, 2016 I think if they can put them on the portal they should be available on phone and website!!!! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n2horns Report post Posted April 15, 2016 I would be happy if they actually get this draw correct and not screw it up like they did with Javelina and Turkey. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stanley Report post Posted April 15, 2016 Didn't draw a darn thing so tonight, AZG&F gets both barrels. lol What do you all think about AZG&F withholding available draw results from bonafide applicants who choose not to have an account with AZG&F? Why are the bureaucrats, holed up in their compound out on Carefree highway, bent on coercing us to submit to their wishes? The coercion is subtle but unmistakable, what are they after? You're joking, right? Do you know what coercion means? Umm.... Incenting folks to sign-up for the portal and/ or driving traffic to the portal. Yes, but coercing anyone? Too funny... I frankly don't see anything wrong with it, nor do I care. WAY more important things for me to wonder about or speculate over..... I used to wait until close to what ever the published date for 'draw results being mailed' before I could see the results online. Now if I choose to willingly (without anyone strong-arming me or coercing me...), I can sign-up and end the speculation and guessing in my brain a little earlier. If I didn't like the idea of the portal, I would simply not sign-up and wait until the published date. Simple, IMO... S. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
backcountry_brad Report post Posted April 15, 2016 Should you be able to see your updated bonus points if you just bought em??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swivelhead Report post Posted April 15, 2016 Didn't draw a darn thing so tonight, AZG&F gets both barrels. lol What do you all think about AZG&F withholding available draw results from bonafide applicants who choose not to have an account with AZG&F? Why are the bureaucrats, holed up in their compound out on Carefree highway, bent on coercing us to submit to their wishes? The coercion is subtle but unmistakable, what are they after? You're joking, right? Do you know what coercion means? Umm.... Incenting folks to sign-up for the portal and/ or driving traffic to the portal. Yes, but coercing anyone? Too funny... I frankly don't see anything wrong with it, nor do I care. WAY more important things for me to wonder about or speculate over..... I used to wait until close to what ever the published date for 'draw results being mailed' before I could see the results online. Now if I choose to willingly (without anyone strong-arming me or coercing me...), I can sign-up and end the speculation and guessing in my brain a little earlier. If I didn't like the idea of the portal, I would simply not sign-up and wait until the published date. Simple, IMO... S. I guess I did go "black helicopters" with my OP. Still wonder why they are pushing the portal so hard. They could have put results out on all 3 venues (phone, web, portal) and avoided any speculation as to their motives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
520HUNT Report post Posted April 15, 2016 Didn't draw a darn thing so tonight, AZG&F gets both barrels. lol What do you all think about AZG&F withholding available draw results from bonafide applicants who choose not to have an account with AZG&F? Why are the bureaucrats, holed up in their compound out on Carefree highway, bent on coercing us to submit to their wishes? The coercion is subtle but unmistakable, what are they after? You're joking, right? Do you know what coercion means? Umm.... Incenting folks to sign-up for the portal and/ or driving traffic to the portal. Yes, but coercing anyone? Too funny... I frankly don't see anything wrong with it, nor do I care. WAY more important things for me to wonder about or speculate over..... I used to wait until close to what ever the published date for 'draw results being mailed' before I could see the results online. Now if I choose to willingly (without anyone strong-arming me or coercing me...), I can sign-up and end the speculation and guessing in my brain a little earlier. If I didn't like the idea of the portal, I would simply not sign-up and wait until the published date. Simple, IMO... S. Way more important things to worry about, but yet you waste our time with your silly BS again... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stanley Report post Posted April 15, 2016 Didn't draw a darn thing so tonight, AZG&F gets both barrels. lol What do you all think about AZG&F withholding available draw results from bonafide applicants who choose not to have an account with AZG&F? Why are the bureaucrats, holed up in their compound out on Carefree highway, bent on coercing us to submit to their wishes? The coercion is subtle but unmistakable, what are they after? You're joking, right? Do you know what coercion means? Umm.... Incenting folks to sign-up for the portal and/ or driving traffic to the portal. Yes, but coercing anyone? Too funny... I frankly don't see anything wrong with it, nor do I care. WAY more important things for me to wonder about or speculate over..... I used to wait until close to what ever the published date for 'draw results being mailed' before I could see the results online. Now if I choose to willingly (without anyone strong-arming me or coercing me...), I can sign-up and end the speculation and guessing in my brain a little earlier. If I didn't like the idea of the portal, I would simply not sign-up and wait until the published date. Simple, IMO... S. I guess I did go "black helicopters" with my OP. Still wonder why they are pushing the portal so hard. They could have put results out on all 3 venues (phone, web, portal) and avoided any speculation as to their motives. I was at a G&F meeting a couple of years ago where I first heard about the portal idea. They were seeking comment on this and other ideas. If I remember correctly, they were looking at a way to get more active engagement from sportsmen in the state. Another way to try to drive interactions & traffic to the internet vs. phone/mail. I don't really recall much else about the meeting regarding motivation for them building/pushing the portal (meeting was a LONG time ago... ). S. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elkaholic Report post Posted April 15, 2016 most whom first heard of the portal were not against the interaction but then the proposal involved $$$ so if you paid you got an advantage that didn't go well will the majority of hunters ] but I guess you can still join $$$ and get a better habi map interaction thru the portal - who's to say what else in involved in their future plans of $$$ I heard today you can call for the results and online figured to start at 8 am Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swivelhead Report post Posted April 15, 2016 Stanley & elkaholic, I too attended the meeting at dept headquarters a few years back. For whatever reason the dept. really wants this Portal to fly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
654321 Report post Posted April 15, 2016 It wouldn't surprise me one bit if the department moves the draw reports to the portal and makes you pay for those reports, now that would suck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elkaholic Report post Posted April 16, 2016 that's 3 emails this week pushing the get your results now - just apply for portal account! too funny they are emailing my portal email address Share this post Link to post Share on other sites