hoghntr Report post Posted April 8, 2016 Ok so who do we need to speak with? My son's class field trip wagon ride at pioneer Natural History Museum went wrong! So Pioneer put a woman on a tractor to tow this wagon that had never driven the tractor before. So while the woman was towing or the trailer wagon she hit creosote bushes twice not just brush the edges but literally drove through the center of thick mature creosote so all the trees smack the kids and press them into the side of the trailer to where they can get away not once but twice. So all these things happened I screamed for her to stop and the lady talking on the microphone said that there was actually no brakes on the tractor. To top it off once we thought we were safe and we were trying to Dr the children's scratched legs then she drove over a fence back by the office of the museum coming very close to seriously injuring a half a dozen boys that were sitting on the side of the trailer. How do we report this? Who would be in charge of busting people for unsafe business? I called city they said call leo then leo said att general. Is there not a office within city of phoenix safety that would investigate such things so it does not happen again? I did Rush Straight From The Scene to the main office and politely scream at the manager or whoever was wearing a red shirt and carrying a radio and tell her and insist she not let that lady Drive the next class so she did speak to Two Gentlemen working there and had one of the guys go drive it. But I mean what the heck if they're towing our kids around shouldn't then maybe take some kind of lesson or have to have some kind of certification to be able to tow this big trailer??? Please if you have a number for me to call shoot me a text. Thanks i wanna make sure this does not happen again 6024994136 mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elkaholic Report post Posted April 8, 2016 BETTER CALL SAL - I hope you took pictures and documented what you could contact any lawyer or hopefully someone here can give you the help needed. total bummer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoghntr Report post Posted April 8, 2016 BETTER CALL SAL - I hope you took pictures and documented what you could contact any lawyer or hopefully someone here can give you the help needed. total bummer No serious injuries just bunch of scratches but dont want this to happen again. This was verrrrry near a real bad situation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
forepaw Report post Posted April 8, 2016 Sir, You need to contact the state Industrial Commission, and federal OSHA. forepaw 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoghntr Report post Posted April 8, 2016 Just spoke with federal osha they said sorry not us. Also fcic, c.o.p. pd, c.o.p. safety, att general and anyone else i forgot to mention. Crazy if that lady driver felt unsafe from the kids she would have a complaint but i guess "we the people" got no leg to stand on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seek100plus Report post Posted April 8, 2016 OSHA. Trust me , they come on my job site . Or they will point you in right direction Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edge Report post Posted April 8, 2016 Sounds like the first lesson I gave the gf on the '56 Case/International 330. But it had brakes for what they were worth. Tractors have a wide learning curve. Was it a trike? Sorry this happened, Mike. I too would have been looking for some butts to put my boot up, idiots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BowHuntAZ Report post Posted April 8, 2016 Try contacting the local version of OSHA which is ADOSH Arizona Division of Occupational Safety and Health (ADOSH) Phoenix Office 800 W. Washington Street, 2nd floor Phoenix, AZ 85007 (602) 542-5795 (602) 542-1614 Bill Warren, Director Larry Gast, Assistant Director Jessie Atencio, Consultation & Training Manager Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoghntr Report post Posted April 8, 2016 <p> Try contacting the local version of OSHA which is ADOSH Arizona Division of Occupational Safety and Health (ADOSH) Phoenix Office 800 W. Washington Street, 2nd floor Phoenix, AZ 85007 (602) 542-5795 (602) 542-1614 Bill Warren, Director Larry Gast, Assistant Director Jessie Atencio, Consultation & Training Manager Waiting for return call from a woman at az public safety now, she is looking into it to see who can help prevent tragedy. L.O.L. she gave me number for people that do inspections on trucks and school buses. Well guess there is actually no public safety in az. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoghntr Report post Posted April 8, 2016 Sounds like the first lesson I gave the gf on the '56 Case/International 330. But it had brakes for what they were worth. Tractors have a wide learning curve. Was it a trike? Sorry this happened, Mike. I too would have been looking for some butts to put my boot up, idiots. It was a mess! And Yes it was a old trike. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edge Report post Posted April 8, 2016 Sounds like the first lesson I gave the gf on the '56 Case/International 330. But it had brakes for what they were worth. Tractors have a wide learning curve. Was it a trike? Sorry this happened, Mike. I too would have been looking for some butts to put my boot up, idiots. It was a mess! And Yes it was a old trike. Even more dangerous. Theres a reason why they stopped building those. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ringer Report post Posted April 8, 2016 Gee, let's call the feds and put the old ladies at the history museum in jail. Call Lerner "N Rowe and sic them on the old gals to get their social security. I hate OSHA with a passion. All they want is to make money. Maybe just write the museum and chew them out a bit. It is supposed to be a learning experience for the kids. As in learn not to go with Dad to the tractor ride. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Str8Shot Report post Posted April 8, 2016 My question is why are you doing this yourself ? Why are not all the parents along with the school taking action ? If it is the Pioneer Living History Museum on Pioneer Road in Phoenix .. a simple lookup shows it is part of the a Non - profit .... http://www.nonprofitfacts.com/AZ/Pioneer-Arizona-Foundation.html .... I would think the school has the means to facilitate action on behalf of parents and students .... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoghntr Report post Posted April 8, 2016 Gee, let's call the feds and put the old ladies at the history museum in jail. Call Lerner "N Rowe and sic them on the old gals to get their social security. I hate OSHA with a passion. All they want is to make money. Maybe just write the museum and chew them out a bit. It is supposed to be a learning experience for the kids. As in learn not to go with Dad to the tractor ride. If it were 1 of your children and if you were there you might understand the severity of the issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoghntr Report post Posted April 8, 2016 My question is why are you doing this yourself ? Why are not all the parents along with the school taking action ? If it is the Pioneer Living History Museum on Pioneer Road in Phoenix .. a simple lookup shows it is part of the a Non - profit .... http://www.nonprofitfacts.com/AZ/Pioneer-Arizona-Foundation.html .... I would think the school has the means to facilitate action on behalf of parents and students .... In the works. Not looking to sue anyone, well at least not me but then again my kid was not in back where myself and another guy were rescuing kids. Just looking for some safety practices to be put in place for future paying customers of that death trap. Side note, We also did not see 1 rattlesnake warning sign out there which was very suprising at a place that caters to tourists and elementary schools. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites