Coach Report post Posted March 15, 2016 I built a 6.5x284 Norma from a Savage 110 action. On a cold-weather hunt, my son had it misfire several times in a row. I've taken it out in cold weather and every so often I'll get a misfire as well. That said, I switched to CCI primers before this happened so I'm not sure if it's gummy oil from the cold weather or maybe a weak spring. It definitely seems worse in really cold weather. My plan is to strip it down, clean it really well, maybe replace the spring with a heavier after-market one (Midway is perpetually out of them, but it appears you can get them direct from Wolff ), put a little graphite or other non-petroleum lube in there then stick it in the freezer for a couple days and see if it fires. Anyway, my question is, has anyone else had this problem and know of other things that might cause it? Thanks in advance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AverageJoe Report post Posted March 15, 2016 What happens when it misfires? I have had one savage with the accutrigger and if i applied even the slightest side pressure on the trigger before pulling straight back, the firing pin would go off without hitting the primer. From my understanding this happens on almost any accutrigger. Some worse than others 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AverageJoe Report post Posted March 15, 2016 You can check this by simply cycling the bolt (empty of course) and pressing sideways on the trigger. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benbrown Report post Posted March 15, 2016 Out here, there is really no reason to lube a rifle with oil. I have been using One-Shot Gun Cleaner and Dry Lube, now marketed by Hornady, for quite a few years. After cleaning the rifle, I douse the bolt and trigger assembly and let them drain and dry. It keeps the "innards" from getting gummed up by old oil residue and it does not collect dust and debris like oil does. It coats the metal with a dry lubricant that will not gum up or collect dust. I do leave a light coating of Rem-Oil in the bore if I intend to store a rifle for a while, but I keep gun oils out of the actions these days. I would clean the action and bolt with white gas or Coleman fuel, blow it dry and then spray the bolt and trigger with One-Shot before I tried replacing the spring... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lancetkenyon Report post Posted March 15, 2016 Happened to my cousin this past elk season in his Ruger M77 too. Oil in the bolt & cold weather (20°) caused it. It had never happened before, and his rifle shot fine after the hunt with warmer temps. He now cleaned his bolt thoroughly. I always clean my firing pin/bolt assembly of all lubricant before a cold weather hunt. Luckily, it happened when he was trying to scare me with 30 minutes left in the hunt, so we caught it. 26 minutes later, he used my rifle to take his first ever elk with 4 minutes of legal light left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike S Report post Posted March 15, 2016 As others have said, no oils needed on a firing pin and spring assembly for cold weather. I put a little graphite powder on the spring, but a dry lube might work even better. I do always keep the bolt lug faces lightly greased though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coach Report post Posted March 15, 2016 Hey guys, as always I appreciate all the responses. To answer AverageJoe, that is one of my concerns. The accutrigger on this is light, I mean really light. I replaced the standard/magnum with a lighter trigger spring. I thought I was getting the tactical that goes down to 1.5 pounds, but there is a target one that goes down to 6 ounces, which feels more like this one at its lightest setting. This thing is touchy to say the least. I like a light trigger but, especially for a gun I let my kids hunt with it needs to be tightened up a bit. It takes you by surprise even when you know it's light. On the plus side, my groups have never been smaller, lol. Looking at some other forums, it appears others have found exactly what you described, but I didn't know if there was any way the trigger could affect the the firing pin, other than of course making it go forward. When I do have misfires, there is either no dent on the primer, or a very slight one off center, so I think you are on to something. Especially since it happens rarely to almost never when I'm shooting off a bench, to consistently for my son - he's younger and was probably putting sideways pressure on the trigger. Benbrown, thanks for the advice on cleaning and the One-shot. A good dry lube is something I'm looking for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
