Optics warranties. Worth it or not?

[trphyhntr]

I use and support G. Loomis and Zeiss. And Not because of the warranty.

Shimano reels?

[Antmo23]

You bet your sweet butt!

[Swivelhead]

Products/manufacturers prove themselves over time. Reputations are earned, good or bad. Seems many Vortex owners opt to upgrade judging from the classifieds here on CWT.

[AverageJoe]

Products/manufacturers prove themselves over time. Reputations are earned, good or bad. Seems many Vortex owners opt to upgrade judging from the classifieds here on CWT.

 

Please dont judge the entire hunting community by the elite wannabe attitude of the few on Coues Whitetail. Step away from this website you will see Vortex outsells Swarovski almost 10-1 (based on annual sales in North America). Reason is other than select hunting out west (especially Coues) most hunters have no need for Swarovski quality or outrageous price tag.

[trphyhntr]

 

 

Products/manufacturers prove themselves over time. Reputations are earned, good or bad. Seems many Vortex owners opt to upgrade judging from the classifieds here on CWT.

Please dont judge the entire hunting community by the elite wannabe attitude of the few on Coues Whitetail. Step away from this website you will see Vortex outsells Swarovski almost 10-1 (based on annual sales in North America). Reason is other than select hunting out west (especially Coues) most hunters have no need for Swarovski quality or outrageous price tag.

 

Why you mad though?

[Swivelhead]

 

Products/manufacturers prove themselves over time. Reputations are earned, good or bad. Seems many Vortex owners opt to upgrade judging from the classifieds here on CWT.

Please dont judge the entire hunting community by the elite wannabe attitude of the few on Coues Whitetail. Step away from this website you will see Vortex outsells Swarovski almost 10-1 (based on annual sales in North America). Reason is other than select hunting out west (especially Coues) most hunters have no need for Swarovski quality or outrageous price tag.

 

Last time I checked, most of us ARE western hunters. Western states have a wide variation of habitats (rain forests to sand dunes). The best optics are always desirable.

 

Nothing wrong with Vortex, IMO the basis of their success is pricing + VIP warranty. I buy used to avoid paying retail. For the cost of new premium Vortex products, I can obtain high end glass that will likely hold its value very well. I also believe that I get better optics for my $$$. Most high end manufacturers offer some type of warranty for secondary owners, I'm good with that.

[cactusjack]

Leica is for original purchaser only.

[trphyhntr]

Leica is for original purchaser only.

unless you buy them from someone who can give you the original proof of purchase.

[cactusjack]

Is that fraud? Sounds like fraud to me.

[naturebob]

Hey Yote. When I was living in Minot all the die hard fishermen I knew allways said Buy Sheels brands , they replace it no problem if broken.........BOB!

[trphyhntr]

Is that fraud? Sounds like fraud to me.

huh? idk i paid to get mine fixed from leica but when they called me they said if i had the receipt or the warranty card from the original owner it would be free. unrelated but do you drive 5mph under the speed limit?

[cactusjack]

The claims of failing optics or any item, are purely speculative and tend to follow confirmation bias. Only Vortex knows their true failure rate. Likewise Swarovski and Remington,..... the list continues.

as to Fraud, here is where I pulled it.

 

http://www.nemeng.com/leica/025e.shtml

 

Leica Warranty - transferrable? Scope

The warranty you get on new items is solely between the person who bought the item and the manufacturer only - it is limited to the initial purchaser and vendor only and is not attached to the item itself.

So if you buy an second hand item still under warranty with Leica, the warranty itself will not transfer to the new owner. This is the reason why camera stores offer their own 3-6 month warranties on used equipment.

Strictly speaking, the warranty for Leica equipment here is between Leica and the person who bought the item from an authorised Leica Dealer, who in turn had sourced the item through an authorised Leica Distributor.

Break the chain at any point and the warranty goes.

However it is apparent that Leica will - at their discretion - make exceptions, especially for R8/9 users. But it is up to them.

Work-arounds? Passport under another name

You've bought a second-hand Leica still under Passport warranty. After using it for a short while something breaks. Can you still send it in to be repaired under warranty? A few years back an "experienced Leica user" noted the following:

The standard practice among friends is, if the item needs passport warranty work, you simply send it to Leica under the original owners name. The address is immaterial as people do move and sometimes need service when on an assignment... It works. Same for Hasselblad.

Yes, well… this is fraud. When the camera was sold to you the "warranty-chain" broke and it became just another second-hand camera.

You might be able to get away with sending it in under the original owner's name to claim warranty protection, but you only have to be caught once to earn yourself an indelible black mark. You have been warned.

Cards not yet filled in

If however the warranty card has not yet been filled in, then practically you have no problems. In this particular case your warranty will most likely be valid. Just fill in the card under your name and address and mail it off to Leica. (This of course assumes the warranty covers an item only a few months old and some "new-in-box" 30 year old collectors relic!)

Hold back on immediately filling in your Warranty cards

You've just taken deliver of a brand new camera and realise you have to fill in the warranty cards and mail them off to obtain warranty protection. Thing is, don't do it straight away. Always wait until you've shot a couple of rolls and have confirmed everything works okay before filling in the warranty card.

Why? Because if there is something wrong, you can return the camera + packaging + warranty cards to your dealer and there will be less trouble getting the camera swapped for new one. Otherwise the dealer will have to send your faulty camera off for service repairs and then wait the weeks (or months) required for the problems to be fixed.

Keep in mind any camera swap is done completely at the dealer's discretion. You cannot demand they do it!

Time limits still apply!

Another thing to keep in mind is to not put off filling in the cards indefinitely. In May 2004 Anthony Oresteen noted the following warning:

I called Leica USA about a month ago. They informed me that you only get Passport warranty in the US if you register the item within

30 days

of purchase from an authorized Leica dealer. If you fail to register the item within 30 days, then you only get the normal Leica warranty (no Passport)

On another note, someone driving 5 miles under the speed limit can be sited for either excessive speed or impeding the flow of traffic. No relevance to this thread whatsoever.

[trphyhntr]

youre tripping me out dude.