wish2hunt Report post Posted January 14, 2016 I shot a mule deer through both shoulders with a clean pass through and he made it 40 yds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GotBowAz Report post Posted January 14, 2016 May I ask how heavy your arrow is combined with the head? Mechanicals get such a bash on penetration issues which is mostly due to operator error. Shooting a light arrow with any mechanical is going to give you crappy penetration, specifically with a 3 blade mechanical. I shoot 600 grains total arrow weight or better with mechanicals for Elk and sense I dont like to change my set up I use that for deer as well. A new bow is not the answer, it is nice and makes heavier set ups fly a little flatter but this is not the fault of your bow. Read up on Front Of Center (FOC) and the remarkable advantages is gives any set up combined with a heavy arrow and you should achieve total pass troughs with any mechanical unless its a shoulder/Spine hit. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
runningbird Report post Posted January 20, 2016 IMO it's all very simple, shot placement and a sharp blade. Just because it is new does not mean it's sharp enough. Also if has you stated you had a very good blood trail and arrow sticking out of him. You could have missed the trail, made a mistake? did you find the arrow? Not criticizing , I've lost trails also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bojangles Report post Posted February 19, 2016 this was suggested watching, i would almost say "required watching" if you want to choose a broadheads. give your wife the credit card, send her to the mall, and sit back on the couch and listen to gillingham's advice. i would never use a fix blade again, if i could help it. chalk it up to personal experience, coupled with the advice of one of the best bow shots in the world. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
backcountry_brad Report post Posted February 19, 2016 I will never use mechanical broadheads. I shoot shuttle t-locks and love em, but muzzy's aren't bad either Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CouesPursuit Report post Posted February 19, 2016 A little high and back for my liking but I'm 1/1 shooting Rage 3 Blades, DRT. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattys281 Report post Posted February 19, 2016 A little high and back for my liking but I'm 1/1 shooting Rage 3 Blades, DRT. 0829140913.jpg Shoulder mount? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaymzth007 Report post Posted February 19, 2016 this was suggested watching, i would almost say "required watching" if you want to choose a broadheads. give your wife the credit card, send her to the mall, and sit back on the couch and listen to gillingham's advice. i would never use a fix blade again, if i could help it. chalk it up to personal experience, coupled with the advice of one of the best bow shots in the world. Not to derail this thread but the Gritty podcasts are great! Lots of good info. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bojangles Report post Posted February 20, 2016 I will never use mechanical broadheads. I shoot shuttle t-locks and love em, but muzzy's aren't bad either what's the reasoning behind your decision? not that shuttle's aren't great heads....but why no mechanicals? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
couesdown Report post Posted February 20, 2016 In Gritty Bowmans latest podcast # 80, they also discuss mechanical vs fixed. Cameron Hanes has the opposite view on mechanical's. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
backcountry_brad Report post Posted February 21, 2016 I will never use mechanical broadheads. I shoot shuttle t-locks and love em, but muzzy's aren't bad either what's the reasoning behind your decision? not that shuttle's aren't great heads....but why no mechanicals? I have heard of far too many people who used mechanicals that didn't open. When hunting, I am a firm believer in having 100% reliable equipment such as bolt action rifles, revolvers, and fixed blade broadheads. I don't like having any fear whatsoever that there could be a failure with my weapons when I'm hunting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bojangles Report post Posted February 21, 2016 I will never use mechanical broadheads. I shoot shuttle t-locks and love em, but muzzy's aren't bad either what's the reasoning behind your decision? not that shuttle's aren't great heads....but why no mechanicals? I have heard of far too many people who used mechanicals that didn't open. When hunting, I am a firm believer in having 100% reliable equipment such as bolt action rifles, revolvers, and fixed blade broadheads. I don't like having any fear whatsoever that there could be a failure with my weapons when I'm hunting. cool. well, nothing wrong with fixed blades, for sure. but consider, military guys go into combat with auto pistols and rifles, not revolvers and bolts for the most part, because the benefit outweighs the risk. everything can fail, including a fixed blade, and may actually be much more prone to do so than a quality expandable, as illustrated in the above podcast. my go to fixed blade is the good old NAP thunderhead. they cost per six what others cost per 3, and kill stuff till it's dead. but i like my ulmer edges really well. arrow flight and tunability is unprecedented. but i woudn't use one unless i was totally comfortable with it. good hunting. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThomC Report post Posted February 21, 2016 I would believe someone that has studied a subject and has real extensive experience over 99% of the internet opinions. Most internet opinions are like adam henrys, every has one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattys281 Report post Posted February 21, 2016 Bottom line: a field point will do the job when put through the lungs, liver or guts. It'll just take longer and be a tougher tracking job. Use what you have the most confidence in, and know that nothing is ever perfect. Literally anything could fail at any time. Ive shot a few animals with each type and wouldnt hesitate to use either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singleshot Report post Posted February 22, 2016 My daughter recently harvested a Javelina using an expandable blade broad head. She is shooting a Hoyt Rampage if I remember right, at a draw weight of fifty pounds. Gold tip 400 arrows at 27.5 inches of draw length. Her BF's uncle has won the Triple Crown twice and tuned and set it up for her. He recommended 75 grain Wasp Jack Hammer expandables and that's what she shot. Not my first choice I was thinking fixed blades only, but I'm not stupid enough to argue with a guy like that. First arrow she shoots at anything besides a target she smokes a big jack at 30 yards. Rabbits are thin skinned, no big deal. Second arrow she kills a big boar at 33 yards. Broke ribs in and ribs out and the arrow floated off into the canyon a ways. Pigs are pretty good at stopping arrows, I was impressed, but Sarah's arrows fly so pretty and it adds up to a great set up. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites