Can an Archery Elk permit be converted?

[bowhuntinmaniac]

Hate to say it.....but I think he is out of luck.......the key word is "permanent". Un;ess you can get a doctor to sign off on it being a permament loss of use, it won't fly.

And, I think as Tony said, crossbows cant be used on elk.

It may be hard for a HOAL kid to draw a bow also, but it would be worth it to try to find someone that can use it.

[Outdoor Writer]

And, I think as Tony said, crossbows cant be used on elk.

 

Actually, I said just the opposite. I posted the rule where it says the ONLY time one CAN use a crossbow for elk is if they have the special disability permit.

 

Your comment about the permanent nature is a good one, though, and goes along with what I also cited about the 90% arm disability. It will be interesting to hear how this shakes out if he does try to get the special permit. -TONY

[bowhuntinmaniac]

Ok, I got it backwards..........hopefully, if nothing else, he can go on the hunt, just to be in camp.

[tjhunt2]

It has some fine lines there that could be interpreded diiferently. This may or may not help but here is what I went thru last month at long discussion with G&F. I had rotator cup surgery April 5th and won't be able to shoot my bow by Nov. archery elk season. I was issued a crossbow permit because the key words in all of this is "90% impairment [of function] of one arm ". The arm has many functions of movement, therefore at this time they can't say that I might not have permanent disability in a certain function, as in movement in a particular direction.

Now does any of that make since? I think I'm confused all over again but the bottom line in my case is I can hunt elk with the crossbow during my archery hunt and can purchase over the counter tags for Aug. deer and turkey as well and use it also.

Tony........key word is [of function]. Keep me informed if you hear otherwise.

 

Gino.........CHAMP permit R12-4-217 section C-2a. Has a disability or combination of disabilities that creates a minimum permanent impairment of function of [ or equivalent to] no less than 90%loss of function of one leg.

Key word here is [or equivalent to]. I don't see how he could not be issued a CHAMP permit. He needs to be on that hunt. Good luck.

[grizzly]

Man I feel for your buddy, when I was a senior in HS I drew a dec deer tag then got really sick and had to undergo open heart surgery in November. I remember those loooong depressing days in the hospital and the agonizing few days after the surgery where I thought it would never end. I eventually got out and was able to hunt with a .223 but never got close enough to a deer to close the deal, still it was the time in the mountains that I remember.

There is a show on the Mens Channel called Knockout Hunting with former heavyweight boxer Jerry Goff, the show is sponsored by a company called draw-loc bow, at drawloc.com. Many of the episodes feature physically handicapped people bowhunting, including one man with a completely paralyzed left arm (maybe polio?). If you have never seen the show go to drawloc.com and see the bow, this could be what your friend needs to be able to hunt. I wish him the best and hope that he makes it into the woods this fall.

[bowhuntinmaniac]

Grizzly, a draw lock for a bow is illegal in Az. I can't find it in the regs right now, but it states that a bow can not be held in the drawn position by a mechanical device.

[tjhunt2]

Here is a direct quote from G&F, "You can use a crossbow for elk and you can use a draw lock on your bow with a crossbow permit". That part doesn't sound right to me either. I'm just telling you what I was told.

[Outdoor Writer]

Here is a direct quote from G&F, "You can use a crossbow for elk and you can use a draw lock on your bow with a crossbow permit". That part doesn't sound right to me either. I'm just telling you what I was told.

 

In essence, a crossbow is a bow with a draw lock. It's just a lot shorter than a normal bow. -TONY

[tjhunt2]

Here is a direct quote from G&F, "You can use a crossbow for elk and you can use a draw lock on your bow with a crossbow permit". That part doesn't sound right to me either. I'm just telling you what I was told.

 

In essence, a crossbow is a bow with a draw lock. It's just a lot shorter than a normal bow. -TONY

I'm not one for words or explaining as well Tony but they said a draw lock on a compound bow. Sorry for that.

[bowhuntinmaniac]

yeah, but you still have to have a dr. note, right?