308Nut Report post Posted December 29, 2015 Looks like the difference between the ELDMs and the AMAXs is just the tip. There are slight bearing surface differences but it's possibly manufacturing tolerances between lots. The overall lengths are identical. The bodies are .011 and .018" longer on the ELDMs. Left to right: 140 AMAX, 140 ELDM, 143 ELDX, 200 ELDX, 208 AMAX, 208 ELDM, 212 ELDX. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STOMP442 Report post Posted December 29, 2015 Wow very nice! I will be waiting to hear your reports on the 6.5's are you planning on doing any BC verification? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WampusCat Report post Posted December 29, 2015 Woohoo, best thread I've read today. Thanks for throwing that pic up for comparison. Those are pretty slick. I preordered some 143s and 212s when mid south first offered, but no sign of them yet. Would you mind measuring the overall length of the 143 & 212? I've got some time to kill and the mad scientist inside me wants to crunch numbers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
308Nut Report post Posted December 30, 2015 Wow very nice! I will be waiting to hear your reports on the 6.5's are you planning on doing any BC verification? Probably, but not for a while. Our 1000 yard range is closed until April or whenever the snow on the adjacent path clears and dries out. Our 300 yard range is open 7 days a week from 7am to 10pm but I've already fired 208 AMAXs over 200 yard double chronies several times in times past at different velocities. The results were right in line with Hornady's numbers and Litz's numbers for the given velocities. I don't see the need to shoot the 208 ELDM over two chronies seeing how close they are dimension wise, For kicks and grins, I'll definitely do a side by side 1000 yard drop comparison out of the 300WM when the range opens but won't take the time to set up two chronies for them. I likely won't get to the 140's any time soon either. My current and only 6.5 barrel is about gone altogether. It doesn't shoot the 140VLD or 140 AMAX with any real degree of accuracy anymore. It shot the 140VLD, AMAX and SST lights out in it's earlier life. The best accuracy with the VLDs was by far .001-.002" off the lands. I've tried jumping the VLDs in it early on and in recent days and it will not tolerate it and my throat has been chased enough to where I cannot get them on the lands. It'll do 1MOA reliably but I'm not game for that. It is handling the 140 ACCUBONDs and the 142 ABLRs very well though and those will be my go-to bullets until it is re-barreled. They'll do 1/2 MOA consistently, sometimes less. I will likely load some 143s in the next week or two just to see if my barrel likes them but I won't hold my breath. When she gets re-barreled and is more trust worthy, I'll get more serious about giving them a thorough work up unless she digests the 143 well. If it does do well with the 143s, like it does with the 142s, I'll take the time to set up double chronies just to see how close they are to advertised and to satisfy my curiosity. I'm betting the 143 will be close if not right on. There is nothing about it's design that would suggest it wouldn't be over .600G1 unlike the ABLRs where we all knew just by looking at them that they wouldn't be close to published. IMO, Hornady has always done a fair job of the short range BC testing and published values. Now that they've stepped up their methods and increased the distances in which they test, I'm reasonably confident they're going to be close. Even if they are lower, I'm pretty positive the gap will be much smaller than it is with the ABLRs. With the utter distain the long range crowd has demonstrated over the ABLRs published BCs, I'm sure Hornady has taken note and desires to not fall into the same category. Sorry about the long winded response. It isn't as simple as yes or no! Yes AND No. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
308Nut Report post Posted December 30, 2015 Woohoo, best thread I've read today. Thanks for throwing that pic up for comparison. Those are pretty slick. I preordered some 143s and 212s when mid south first offered, but no sign of them yet. Would you mind measuring the overall length of the 143 & 212? I've got some time to kill and the mad scientist inside me wants to crunch numbers. .264/143 = 1.440" on the dot. .308/212 = 1.598" The nose of the 212 is longer than the 200 ELDX and is about the same as the 208. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WampusCat Report post Posted December 30, 2015 .264/143 = 1.440" on the dot. .308/212 = 1.598" The nose of the 212 is longer than the 200 ELDX and is about the same as the 208. Thank you Sir! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
