Effects of so many monsters killed on the strip this year

[johnnie blaze]

Let's not forget about all the bucks that are killed that aren't the beasts, or not pimped on the www. I think we are definitely harvesting more animals then ever before. 30 yrs ago, no one glassed. 20 yrs ago, no one had game cams. And 10 yrs ago, not everyone was a guide. Common sense tells you that it has to do more damage then ever before.

[shanehamblin]

what I think we're talking about has nothing to do with 200" deer but mature deer. Probably the same amount of mature deer get killed up there every year. This year was just an exceptional antler growth year.

[longshooter]

Let's not forget about all the bucks that are killed that aren't the beasts, or not pimped on the www. I think we are definitely harvesting more animals then ever before. 30 yrs ago, no one glassed. 20 yrs ago, no one had game cams. And 10 yrs ago, not everyone was a guide. Common sense tells you that it has to do more damage then ever before.

That's a fact. I've hunted in this state for over 30 years and around some of the top hunters in premium units. 20-30 years ago there was not a fraction of the big bucks and bulls that get killed today. It was a big deal to kill a coues over 100" back then or a bull over 350. Now it's the norm.

[trphyhntr]

that feel when, thread is irrelevant because youre never going to shoot at a strip deer in your life anyway.

[muledeerarea33?]

 

Let's not forget about all the bucks that are killed that aren't the beasts, or not pimped on the www. I think we are definitely harvesting more animals then ever before. 30 yrs ago, no one glassed. 20 yrs ago, no one had game cams. And 10 yrs ago, not everyone was a guide. Common sense tells you that it has to do more damage then ever before.

That's a fact. I've hunted in this state for over 30 years and around some of the top hunters in premium units. 20-30 years ago there was not a fraction of the big bucks and bulls that get killed today. It was a big deal to kill a coues over 100" back then or a bull over 350. Now it's the norm.

back in those day a coues over 100, an elk over 350, or a mulie over 180 was rarely scored. Score didn't matter. Width was a big deal and big buck contests were based on body weight. Now a days is all antler size. A lot of big animals were killed in the 80's, 90's and pry earlier that antler size wasn't too priority. Times have changed.

[longshooter]

My family and friends still scored them back then. My great grandfather and uncles had tons of coues over 110" on their walls that were killed in the 40's,50's and 60's. used to hunt unit 9 early Archery in the 80's pretty much every year. Our group killed a decent amount of bulls over 350 back then.

 

Today still does not compare to back then. We didn't have 15's or swaro spotting scopes back then. Didn't shoot past 1000 yards either . we had bushnell spotting scopes, ziess binos, used tripods, even had shooting rest that screwed in to our old slik tripods that elkaddict a fellow member was making in the 80's.even with Archery when we shot slow bows with the old aluminum easton game getter arrows a 50 yard shot was considered long range, now most guys are shooting past 100 yards

 

My point, I'm quit aware of what was killed back then and it still does not compare to these days.

[wildwoody]

Hopefully no buddy will put in for it next so I can get my tag. The heard os just fine, great genes

[naturebob]

9 Points and counting. I hope I live that long.......BOB!

[Coach]

I just want to see all these giant bucks you guys are talking about. I've seen the bundy buck that was around 290 but where are the rest? I don't do facebook so let's post 'em up!

[trphyhntr]

I just want to see all these giant bucks you guys are talking about. I've seen the bundy buck that was around 290 but where are the rest? I don't do facebook so let's post 'em up!

get it for the horn porn

[wildwoody]

Moose is 226"

[MT_Sourdough]

I remember people having a similar debate back in the 80's in Montana. Hunters opinions, as well as the data, said the size of bucks had gone down and many were blaming trophy hunters for taking out the best genetics from the gene pool. Then the Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks as well as some private ranches became more proactive in their approach to management to give bucks a chance to mature. In those areas, the big bucks returned. What was demonstrated, then, was the extreme pressure of over the counter general rifle tags rarely allowed bucks to reach maturity. When more bucks were allowed to mature, the genetics had a chance to reach potential.

[208muley]

The strip is managed for older age bucks, so if azgfd does their job right, the bucks will always be there. But remember in 2010 they killed a bunch of great deer especially in 13a. After that it was a bit tougher to find giants for a few years. Now we see a year like this one where all the stars align and lots of giants hit the ground. Let's see what happens next year.

[rcdinaz]

They really need to bring back the fork or better rule!

 

I see more spikes than anything killed and I a not knocking anyone but it would be nice to see more of them grow up.

[ThomC]

Common sense says that as hunters get more successful that the numbers of animals will drop. If more guides in an area create more success then the numbers will drop faster. Anytime that you saturate the field with more completion then the success will drop. Say you have a hotdog stand on a real good corner. Then people see your success and bring their hotdog stand to the same corner. At some point the first guy will make less money. So, our hotdog guy has to either move to a different corner or add another hotdog stand on a different corner to keep the same income. I think that a guide will have to at some point develop other hunting spots to compete with increasing numbers of others hunting the same area. I think that the original poster is thinking that the goose that lays the golden egg may at some point dry up one way or the other.