28 Nosler

[HuntHarder]

Curious as to what some of your thoughts are with this caliber. Ballistics are near identical to 7mm ultra mag, so why develop the 28 Nosler? Thinking about building another long range gun for Elk and Deer. Some of you guys that reload much more than I do, I would like to get your opinions on this caliber. Thanks,

[Zeke-BE]

My belief is that Nosler is just promoting and trying to up their sales. ( like any business would naturally do). But if they promote it enough and performs enough it can catch on. It's easier to say 28 Nosler, than say an uncommon wild cat 7mm ultra Mag. His reminds me of when Remington developed the 6mm remington. It actually performs better than the Winchester 243, (by about 150 fps faster) so why not is remington making more 6mm? At that time Winchester did a better time in advertising it lot more than remington and it stuck. Remington eventually pulled it off the market and the trusty ol .243 is still in the game. It's a great round but if you look at competitions you can see there are a lot more 6mm winning those competitions then .243

[.270]

What is a 28 nosler anyway? The 6mm rem was originally called a .244 rem. 2 things killed it, barrel twist was too slow to stabilize 100 gr bullets and you couldn't resize a .308 to make it. So rem twisted it faster and renamed it the 6mm. It's a fine round and is still chambered, but marginally better than the .243, ammo is harder to find, and you can't resize a .308 to make it. It ain't a big deal now, but in the 60's, being able to resize military brass was. Remington had a real bad habit of letting someone else develop a round, then making a similar one a little longer, that couldn't be made from resized brass(like the .280/7mm express/.280 again) without putting a lotta work into it. They basically stoled the 7 mag from Winchester, and the .22/.250 from wildcatters, and those 2 rounds may have saved em. Lark

[Coach]

I'm thinking that Nosler is putting out some wildcats that they can market as high performance rifles similar to what a custom shop would build. The 28 Nosler is interesting in that, as Lark pointed out, just a 7MM mag. It's a non-belted fat brass. So Remington put out the RUM family built on the 404 Jeffery case necked down. Had some success but nobody really flocked to them. In a lot of ways the 28 Nosler is like a 7mm Ultra Mag in terms of brass and powder capacity.

 

Getting rid of the belted cases might make it easier to reload but certainly not cheaper. Brass will cost around $2.70 per round - just the brass. Remember when nobody wanted to shoot Weatherby with factory ammo because it cost $50-$70 a box for premium Weatherby ammo?

 

So in my opinion, the 28 Nosler is a way overpriced 7MM Mag.

 

The 26 Nosler is even more interesting. I've been loading for a 6.5x284 Norma with a wide range of powders. Typical loads are around 47 grains in IMR4350, H4831sc, etc and it's considered a barrel burner. The 26 Nosler uses 72 - 92 gr. of powder. You get 3-400 extra FPS but at what cost?

 

I'm old, so FPS means little to me. I want accurate. Blowing 80-90 grains of powder behind a 6.5 bullet to get some extra velocity seems contrary.

[lancetkenyon]

I think the 28 Nosler is just begging to use the 195 HVLD. It would definitely be an elk hammer. Same with the other high capacity 7s. 7RUM, 7STW, 7 Dakota, etc.

 

The 26 Nosler is similar, but a 160 6.5 bullet would be plenty for elk at fairly long range. Yet more friendly for deer sized game in my opinion.

 

I am wondering when the 30 or 33 Nosler will come into play. With the RUM crowds jumping on the 300RUM and 338 Edge, Nosler would be crazy to not expedite these rounds. But they are nothing that is basically not out there already in a wildcat. Just the availability of factory Nosler Brass would make them more available to the general public.

[AlexB]

They say the 26 Nosler is a 7mm RUM necked down to 6.5mm so the 28 Noser is just another 7mm RUM right? They just changed the name

[dse]

Nosler lists data for the 30 Nosler in the new #8 manuel. I would bet they announce it at shot show in a couple months.

[yotebuster]

I'm just hoping for a .17 Nosler. 25gr hp at 8000 fps.

[firstcoueswas80]

I'm just hoping for a .17 Nosler. 25gr hp at 8000 fps.

28 nos necked down?

[yotebuster]

 

I'm just hoping for a .17 Nosler. 25gr hp at 8000 fps.

28 nos necked down?

Yes. I don't wanna hear any "overbore" Mumbo jumbo. I don't wanna hear about how it'll "blow you up". I just want a 25gr bullet with a max point blank range of 675 yards. One that's so fast the wind won't even know it was there. A cartridge I can put 100 grains of w296 in and send a bullet so fast it'll kill a jackrabbit before he's even born.

[firstcoueswas80]

I want one that shoots so flat, I can kill a rabbit behind me!

[HuntHarder]

Thanks for the replies. I might kick it around a bit, before I decide. I am thinking, this might be a 500-700 barrel life cartridge? Seems to be considerably more efficient than the 7Rum on powder consumption.

[n2horns]

barrel life will be shorter. I am building at 7mm on Berger 195 and thought about the 28 Nosler. I can make money fast enough to replace barrels that quickly.

[lancetkenyon]

For a HUNTING rifle, it would be great, and should last for quite a while. If you plan on shooting high volume, you aren't shooting the 28 Nosler for that anyway.

[nralifer]

The new Nosler magnum cartridges are very similar to the Dakota cartridges and fill the same niche. The difference is that they are a little longer and shoulder angle at 35 degrees and use a 0.532 bolt face. They should work very well with the Superformance powder, and are designed for 3006 length actions. Spoke with a physicist from Hodgdon at the SHOT show and he said that the ball powders burn at a lower temperature than stick powders and have less effect on throat erosion. The 28 Nosler should be the equal of the 7STW and use less powder and have less throat erosion. The 30 Nosler is coming and it really is the equivalent of the 300 WBY. I use a 330 Dakota for hunting and it is a superb cartridge for any big game both short and long range. Brought that buffalo down with a single heart shot. If Nosler comes out with a 338 Nosler that should be superb. Recoil is stout on the bench but in the field its about the equivalent of a 16 or 12 ga shotgun. As a whole Nosler has a nice lineup. Unfortunately Remington is letting the Dakota line wither on the vine and Nosler is taking over that niche.