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I fly with coolers filled with my luggage on the way there and pay for the extra bag on the way back since the cooler is usually filled with delicious wonderful meat.. :)

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Curious to know from all of you who fly to hunt. How do you get your meat, cape, antlers/horns, etc back?

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subsection I # 1 - 5

I. An individual may possess, transport, or import only the
following portions of a cervid lawfully taken in another
state or country:
1. Boneless portions of meat, or meat that has been cut
and packaged;
2. Clean hides and capes with no skull or soft tissue
attached, except as required for proof of legality;
3. Clean skulls with antlers, clean skull plates, or antlers
with no meat or soft tissue attached;
4. Finished taxidermy mounts or products; and
5. Upper canine teeth with no meat or tissue attached.

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I've flown Southwest only once, and will never fly it again. It does not reserve seats and it believes every passenger has a smart phone with 24/7 access to the internet. I do not, and I am willing to pay baggage fees to get an aisle seat near the front of the plane. Bill Quimby

That is part of what makes SW better to some of us. But you have to know the game going in or yeah, you get hosed. These days you have to buy the Early bird upgrade ($12.50) as well to be in the front half of the aircraft.

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I've flown Southwest only once, and will never fly it again. It does not reserve seats and it believes every passenger has a smart phone with 24/7 access to the internet. I do not, and I am willing to pay baggage fees to get an aisle seat near the front of the plane. Bill Quimby

That is part of what makes SW better to some of us. But you have to know the game going in or yeah, you get hosed. These days you have to buy the Early bird upgrade ($12.50) as well to be in the front half of the aircraft.

 

 

 

True. I fly them exclusively. Happy crews and very accommodating they are. I can usually always get a window seat and fly alone 99% of the time. Flights are extremely rare to not be ontime. Free bags is a plus but one carry on works for me except for return trips where I am usually bringing back a cooler of fish or sausages when I travel to Louisiana to visit family.

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So a quick follow up here, given the stories I have heard...

 

How is PHX with regard to the extra TSA screening? When I flew out of there 5yrs ago the TSA screening location for these sort of bags was right there at the ticketing counters and open so that the passenger could oversee the opening of the bag/case and extra screening. I am hoping that is still the case?

 

I have seen a number of stories about cases being taken back behind closed doors into back rooms and then TSA agents demanding keys/combos to open the locks without the passenger present when baggage opened which is against Federal law when traveling with firearms as I linked above..

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The PHX TSA checkpoint for guns is in the ticketing area but behind a screened in area. The ticket clerk takes you and your bag to the TSA guy. He opens the bag swabs for explosives a couple times and if it checks out your all set. They don't open the guncase or ask for keys. I traveled last week with 2 handguns via US Airways/American Airlines out of Terminal 4.

 

Harley

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The PHX TSA checkpoint for guns is in the ticketing area but behind a screened in area. The ticket clerk takes you and your bag to the TSA guy. He opens the bag swabs for explosives a couple times and if it checks out your all set. They don't open the guncase or ask for keys. I traveled last week with 2 handguns via US Airways/American Airlines out of Terminal 4.

 

Harley

They do that in front of you were you can see? they did years ago when I flew out of there, was just a roped off area where I could watch from afar, and they opened the suitcase, swabbed and close just like you said.

 

But what about when the case being checked is the gun case itself (Pelican 1750), they open the checked case at all and the firearms are open.. I don't really have a problem with providing them keys to do that, as long as it is all done where I can watch and oversee it so that I can verify and account for my firearms as required legally.

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They do it in front of you. They only opened my suit case with the gun case to swab it. They did not open the gun case itself.

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Went super easy here in Seattle. I put the declaration in case at ticketting, agent never checked. Walked down to TSA station. Told them declaration was already inside. Told me lock it up, swabbed exterior, done in 2min!!! Never even looked inside.

 

Regular passenger screening was a joke. 45min+ because i chose wrong line. DOH. Scopes are in my carry on, went thru no questions. We are out of here!!

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Just to bring everyone up to day now that I have travelled and come back

 

Seatac:

  • Airline: Went in with one lock on case. Declared at counter, SWA agent handed me a declaration card and asked my name/reservation and started on the check bag tag. I filled out card, agent added airline/flight info to the card. I unlocked and threw card inside and she never even glanced inside the case. Put one lock back on and she pointed me to the TSA location and called them to let them know I was coming. no escort
  • TSA - Walked into booth area, let them know I had the signed declaration already inside the case as I put the case up on the table. Agent told me to lock the case all up so I added the 3 additional locks. She asked me where headed and told her to hunt in AZ, then proceeded to have a 5min conversation about hunting and whitetail/mulies etc as she swabbed the outside of case and awaited results. Spend more time talking deer than her doing the screening... never looked inside.

Phoenix:

  • Airline: Much the same as at Seatac, filled out form and put it in the case. This time however they had someone come and take the case and I followed to the TSA location, so I locked it fully at the SWA counter.
  • TSA: Roped off closed area, no admittance, but open and complete view of passenger. no interaction with the TSA agent at all. Swabbed the case, put notes in a log book they had and handed it back to baggage handler to take to aircraft. No looking inside case etc.

All in all it we smooth as silk. wish the hunt had gone so well!

 

 

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